ACLU hits a new low...ACLU: Sex in Restroom Stalls Is Private...

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by John_Wensink, Jan 16, 2008.

  1. How anyone can support these people is beyond comprehension.

    ACLU: Sex in Restroom Stalls Is Private
    AP - Wednesday, January 16ST. PAUL, Minn. - In an effort to help Sen. Larry Craig, the American Civil Liberties Union is arguing that people who have sex in public bathrooms have an expectation of privacy.



    Craig, of Idaho, is asking the Minnesota Court of Appeals to let him withdraw his guilty plea to disorderly conduct stemming from a bathroom sex sting at the Minneapolis airport.

    The ACLU filed a brief Tuesday supporting Craig. It cited a Minnesota Supreme Court ruling 38 years ago that found that people who have sex in closed stalls in public restrooms "have a reasonable expectation of privacy."

    That means the state cannot prove Craig was inviting an undercover officer to have sex in public, the ACLU wrote.

    The Republican senator was arrested June 11 by an undercover officer who said Craig tapped his feet and swiped his hand under a stall divider in a way that signaled he wanted sex. Craig has denied that, saying his actions were misconstrued.

    The ACLU argued that even if Craig was inviting the officer to have sex, his actions wouldn't be illegal.

    "The government cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Senator Craig was inviting the undercover officer to engage in anything other than sexual intimacy that would not have called attention to itself in a closed stall in the public restroom," the ACLU wrote in its brief.

    The ACLU also noted that Craig was originally charged with interference with privacy, which it said was an admission by the state that people in the bathroom stall expect privacy.

    Craig at one point said he would resign but now says he will finish his term, which ends in January 2009.
     
  2. the ACLU tests the law. not only nothing wrong with that, the process should be held in high esteem. what are you afraid of?
     
  3. The bad guys hate our freedom!
     
  4. That is absolutely insane and must be a bad joke.
     
  5. when you take a crap in a public restroom do you have an expectation of privacy on some level? of course you do, among other things there are doors on the stalls. why enter the restroom at all, stay outside and make a public spectacle of yourself. oh, but you do expect privacy don't you? that's why you enter the restroom in fiirst place..the expectation of privacy
     
  6. Hey, anybody remember the 2 and sometimes 3 seater out houses? you know, the ones that were common in underdeveloped communities?

    Oh, how about the "trough" style urinals at the drive ins, where every body just lined up along side eachother to see who could make the biggest splash off the back wall?

    Yeaahh, those were the good old days.
     
  7. Give me a break! I have no qualms about people's sexual orientation, just as long as it is not imposed on me. Consider the constipated guy with the nervous bladder in the next stall who's likely to have an aneurysm from all the grunting. Can no one just get a room anymore? A public restroom is a public place. Sex is a private affair and should not be imposed directly or otherwise on innocent bystanders (or "bysitters" in the next stall, as the case may be). Get real.
     
  8. How can you even have a conversation with somebody as deranged as this.

    If it becomes law maybe you'll be lucky enough to get some of the semen Senator Craig spurted out all over the stall on your hands and face when you visit his love nest.


     
  9. a restroom is not Times Square. it's not all B7W, and there are grayish levels of privacy expectation.

    SEX? who forced sex on anyone? an 'overture' is a communication not a sexual act. a communication found in every bar, diner, dept store etc public place.. did you ever look twice at an attractive woman in a grocery store, smile try to catch her eye?? is that sex?
     
  10. now THIS is deranged
     
    #10     Jan 16, 2008