According to the donkeys at MSNBC, we are now running concentration camps.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Max E., Jun 16, 2018.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I agree. Please shows us these numbers that lead you to believe this is all manufactured.
     
    #161     Jun 19, 2018



  2. The lack of jobs in the United States was what Obama did to reduce the flow. So Trump has to deal with the side effects of an improved economy.

    In regard to Germany, violent crimes are up but the lefties like to use statistics that just show an overall decrease in crime- including minor crimes. No one on the planet thinks that the surge in immigrants reduced any crime anywhere. Even if the number is down, it would be even lower without their "contribution." There are probably a lot of cities/towns in the U.S where overall crime has gone down even though the number of MS-13 has gone up. Certainly they did not help with the crime rate, and we only want people who help or dont make it worse.
     
    #162     Jun 19, 2018
  3. There is one big difference between concentration camps of the sort run by the Soviet Union and FDR, and our border policy: no one is being forced to try to jump the border and gain illegal entry into our country. Stay at home in your own country and you will not have a problem.

    If we had a big wall, most of this would be alleviated because border jumping would be quite hard to do.
     
    #163     Jun 19, 2018
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  4. Seeking asylum is the new version of bastardizing the 14th amendment. Take existing law, twist and turn it into something which was never the original intent, and enjoy the fruits of the ensuing chaos.Got to give'em credit, these old school commies are still in the fight.
     
    #164     Jun 19, 2018
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Concentration Camps. The Horror! American children of parents that commit crimes and go to jail get squat.

    PHOTOS: Inside Shelter for Illegal Alien Children Separated from Parents
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    The Department of Health and Human Services hosted Breitbart News and other media on a tour of a facility in El Cajon, California, on Friday where migrant children are being sheltered after being separated from their parents.

    The children are separated from their parents — or, to be precise, from the adults accompanying them, who may or may not be their parents — when their parents cross the southern U.S. border illegally and are caught and detained.

    Previously, under the “catch-and-release” policy, the adults would be released. Under the “zero tolerance” policy of the Trump administration, the adults are being detained and prosecuted. Children cannot be incarcerated with them.

    However, families that arrive together at legal ports of entry and apply for asylum status are generally not split up and are permitted to stay in the U.S. pending the adjudication of their applications (which can take several years).

    Democrats and the mainstream media have accused the administration of separating the children of “immigrants” from their parents and imprisoning them in “cages.” On Thursday, CNN analyst and Playboy reporter Brian Karem shouted at White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “These people have nothing. They come to the border with nothing and you throw children in cages.” None of the reporters in the briefing room corrected him.

    The facility at El Cajon, however, is not a “cage.” It is a comfortable facility providing lodging, meals, clothing, medical care, education, recreation, counseling, and other services.

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    It is run by a nonprofit organization called Southwest Key as part of the Department of Health and Human Services’ Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC) Program, run by the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) in the Administration for Children and Familes (ACF).

    The facility is located on a main street in a quiet, suburban neighborhood. It has 65 beds, occupied by boys ages 6 to 17. The rooms are spare, with three to four beds in each; the boys are responsible for cleaning the rooms and making their own beds. There is an outdoor recreation area with picnic tables and a small soccer pitch.

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    There is a classroom area, and English lessons. The goal is “reunification”: letting each child depart with a legal guardian.

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    Some 90% of the children at the shelter arrived at the border without adults; the other 10% were separated from the adults accompanying them. Once the children arrive — usually brought by U.S. Border Patrol agents — they are greeted in the “intake” office, where they receive any urgent medical care, are assigned a case worker, and are given food, a shower, and new clothing. They are also given toiletries and lessons in hygiene — literally how to flush a toilet, brush their teeth, and operate the shower, which some of the children may have never seen in their lives.

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    The children receive six hours of education daily, which include lessons in English and physical education. The boys interact with girls who are housed offsite and brought to the shelter during the day to access its services.

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    They have limited access to telephones to call relatives, both in the U.S. and abroad. They receive therapy, both as individuals and in group sessions. They enjoy field trips to local museums, parks, and the zoo, where they can explore the city beyond the shelter. And they also have social activities, including a recent “prom” for which they dressed up.

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    “Cages,” these are not. What is immediately striking about the facility is the enthusiasm and care of the staff who work there. One administrator greeted the journalists on the tour: “Welcome to our home.” The children at the facility seemed genuinely happy, despite their unfortunate circumstances and the trauma of their long journey.

    The real scandal is how the media have portrayed the shelters. When MSNBC’s Jacob Soboroff toured a similar facility this week in Brownsville, Texas, for example, he referredto the children there as being “incarcerated,” which is only true in the same sense that hospital patients, too, are not permitted to leave, for their safety. (One official who had seen Soboroff’s televised report accused him of “flat-out lying” about the facility — such as, for example, reporting on a mural of Donald Trump without noting 19 other presidents were similarly depicted.)

    Southwest Key has operated its facilities — 27 in total, across California, Arizona, and Texas — since 1997, when the U.S. Supreme Court decided in Flores v. Reno that unaccompanied illegal alien minors could not be held in detention facilities. This is not a new problem, even though it took Trump to make the media realize it existed.

    Update: HSS provided a video of the visit:

     
    #165     Jun 19, 2018
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao



    Because it's about the narrative, not the issue. That's how liberals roll.
     
    #166     Jun 19, 2018
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  7. Best accommodations these kids have seen probably ever in their lives. Certainly better than their irresponsible parents have ever shown them.
     
    #167     Jun 19, 2018
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  8. Tom B

    Tom B



    Sen. Cruz Introducing Emergency Legislation to Keep Illegal Immigrant Families Together
    WILL CREATE NEW TEMPORARY SHELTERS – KEEPING FAMILIES INTACT – FUND NEW IMMIGRATION JUDGES, GUARANTEE REVIEW BY AN IMMIGRATION JUDGE WITHIN 72 HOURS, AND RETURN THOSE DENIED ASYLUM TO THEIR HOME COUNTRIES WITHIN 14 DAYS

    https://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=3892

    Still waiting for that Democrat legislation.
     
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    #168     Jun 19, 2018
  9. Arnie

    Arnie

    You know what will happen?
    I do. The judge will defer any action because 72 hours isn't enough time. A 1st year law student would win that argument. They will be released and disappear like all the other illegals. I just hope they don't waste money by building more shelters, they won't be needed because there won't be any people to move in.
     
    #169     Jun 19, 2018
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  10. Poindexter

    Poindexter

    Wait no longer. These sellouts seem to have forgotten who they're supposed to represent.

    Democrats’ Border Separation Bill Would Let Nearly All Parents Who Commit Federal Crimes Get Off Scot-Free
    Every Senate Democrat has signed on to cosponsor a bill written so carelessly that it does not distinguish between foreign children at the border and U.S. citizen children.

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/06/19...ents-commit-federal-crimes-get-off-scot-free/
     
    #170     Jun 19, 2018
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