ABX Indexes Tied to AAA Subprime Bonds Tumble, Rumor Hedge Fund Liquidates

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Cdntrader, Feb 27, 2008.

  1. No rescue effort by Citadel ???? What´s up with them ? :D :D :D
     
    #11     Feb 28, 2008
  2. LOL!
     
    #12     Feb 28, 2008
  3. Suss-----Citadel wants a 120% discount to take over the fund, i.e. they want a 20% bonus for doing so!
     
    #13     Feb 28, 2008
  4. You know, I used to think all these hedge fund guys were scum , gambling with other peoples $$$$ and disguising ponzi schemes with fancy math and fancy lunches.


    Now I KNOW it.
     
    #14     Feb 28, 2008
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    #15     Feb 29, 2008
  6. The ABX was of some interest 6-9 months ago...
    Because is was somewhat of a leading indicator...
    Of bond selloffs in the "SubPrime Financial Space"...
    Such C,BAC,MS,DB,ING,RBS,LEH,JPM,etc,etc.

    But the correlation is now gone...
    As the ABX collapses...
    The Core Financial Space is stable.

    Watching the ABX today...
    Is like watching the worst neighborhood in town...
    The economic equivalent of junkies, hookers, and johns.
     
    #16     Feb 29, 2008
  7. Peloton Lays Blames on Wall Street Lending Crackdown (Update2)

    By Pierre Paulden and Caroline Salas

    Feb. 29 (Bloomberg) -- Peloton Partners LLP, the London- based hedge-fund manager being forced to liquidate a $1.8 billion asset-backed fund, said it's a victim of the lending drought on Wall Street.

    ``Credit providers have been severely tightening terms without regard to the creditworthiness or track record of individual firms, which has compounded our difficulties and made it impossible to meet margin calls,'' Peloton co-founders Ron Beller and Geoff Grant said in a letter yesterday to clients.

    Peloton joins Thornburg Mortgage Inc. and Sailfish Capital Partners LLC on the growing list of funds and companies that have had to sell securities or shut down after banks restricted how much they could borrow, or demanded more collateral as values of securities backed by mortgages slumped. The world's biggest financial institutions are cutting off lines of credit to hedge funds after at least $163 billion of asset writedowns and market losses.

    ``More hedge funds will blow up this year than ever before,'' said Michael Hennessy, who helps oversee $10 billion of hedge fund investments at Morgan Creek Capital Management in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. ``Financing is much harder to get. The bubble has burst.''

    UBS AG, Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Merrill Lynch & Co. and Deutsche Bank AG were among the firms that lent money to Peloton, said people with knowledge of the matter, who declined to be identified. Officials at the banks declined to comment.

    Freeze on Redemptions

    Peloton said yesterday in a separate letter to investors that it froze customer redemptions from its $1.6 billion Multi- Strategy Fund, which has a ``very large position'' in the ABS fund.

    Beller and Grant, who founded their firm in 2005, are seeking buyers for mortgage securities held by the ABS fund. The fund provided clients with an 87 percent return last year after the managers bet on a surge in delinquencies on loans to homeowners in the riskiest subprime category. Beller said in a Jan. 25 telephone interview that the firm bought securities backed by mortgages that are safer than subprime.

    The price of top-rated Alt-A securities, which rank above subprime, dropped 10 percent to 15 percent this month, according to Thornburg Mortgage, the Santa Fe, New Mexico-based finance company which yesterday said it may sell securities to meet further margin calls, after burning through cash.

    ``Risk managers everywhere are revisiting how collateral is being priced so you're seeing margin calls,'' said Kenneth Hackel, managing director of fixed-income strategy at RBS Greenwich Capital Markets in Greenwich, Connecticut. ``As risk appetites decline, the price of assets that are used as collateral decline.''

    Sailfish Fund

    Beller, 45, led Goldman's fixed-income currency and commodity sales group in London before leaving in 2001 to reorganize New York City's school system. Grant, 47, was co-head of New York-based Goldman's so-called macro proprietary trading group. Grant, who works in Santa Barbara, California, declined to comment.

    Sailfish's Multi-Strat Fixed Income fund, which had $1.9 billion in July, collapsed as credit bets went sour and the Stamford, Connecticut-based firm unwound positions into a declining market.

    The average price of an actively traded high-yield, high- risk loan tumbled this month to a record low of 86.28 cents on the dollar from 100 cents last July.

    Margin Calls

    The extra yield, or spread, investors demand to own high- yield, high-risk, or junk, bonds instead of Treasuries widened to 737 basis points from 592 basis points in December, according to data compiled by Merrill Lynch & Co. in New York. A basis point is 0.01 percentage point. Junk debt is rated below Baa3 by Moody's Investors Service and less than BBB- by Standard & Poor's.

    Morgan Stanley predicts that the ``substantial and sharp moves in the credit markets'' will lead to the closures of several credit hedge funds, which could put further pressure on prices of mortgage-related securities and derivatives.

    Particularly at risk of further credit losses is UBS, which has so far written down $19 billion, according to Huw Van Steenis, a Morgan Stanley analyst in London.

    ``We feel that UBS has been consistently behind the curve in marks and, worryingly, the worst may not be over,'' he wrote in a report yesterday.

    UBS needs to reduce its balance sheet from 2.3 trillion francs ($2.2 trillion) to less than 1.7 trillion francs, and reducing ties to hedge funds is a likely lever, Van Steenis wrote in an e-mail today.

    An increase in margin calls may drive prices even lower, RBS's Hackel said.

    ``I feel like so many shoes have already dropped, the shoe store should be empty by now,'' he said. ``I'd like to think we're pretty close to the end of the game, but I can't say that with any degree of confidence.''

    To contact the reporters on this story: Pierre Paulden in New York at ppaulden@bloomberg.net ; Caroline Salas in New York at csalas1@bloomberg.net

    Last Updated: February 29, 2008 11:20 EST
     
    #17     Feb 29, 2008
  8. Yesterday's news tomorrow.
     
    #18     Feb 29, 2008
  9. Carlyle unit fails to meet some margin calls
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    AMSTERDAM/LONDON (Reuters) - A Dutch-listed affiliate of private equity firm Carlyle Group has not been able to meet some margin calls and has received a notice of default, it said on Thursday.

    Carlyle Capital Corporation (CCC) said it received margin calls totaling more than $37 million from seven financing parties on Wednesday and was unable to meet the demands for extra collateral to cover its market positions for four of them.

    It said it received one default notice and expected at least one more.

    Listed on the Amsterdam exchange last July, CCC invests in products including investment grade mortgage-backed securities.

    CCC as of last month had a $21.7 billion investment portfolio of AAA-rated floating-rate capped U.S. mortgage-backed securities issued by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

    Mortgage-backed securities guaranteed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac saw spreads widen against U.S. government debt for a fourth day on Wednesday.

    Some yields are now at their cheapest levels in at least two decades.

    MBS are seen as posing little credit risk, but as banks and other large investors shed riskier debt, they are asking dealers with already bloated inventories to buy their holdings, creating a glut in the market. Continued...
     
    #19     Mar 6, 2008
  10. dont

    dont

    What gets me is that, it is precisely hedge funds that are supposed to be buying these types of markets, instead they (ok some) are getting pummeled.

    I have zero sympathy, ifr the game was so easy we would all be rich.
    But to charge two and twenty for this kind of thing, is akin to fraud.
     
    #20     Mar 6, 2008