Abrams calls for Democrats to embrace "identity politics"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by vanzandt, Mar 7, 2019.

  1. When identify politics is all you have, it only makes sense to embrace it. That Stacey, she be's smart.
     
    #11     Mar 7, 2019
  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Its the brain washing that matters. I mean it is.
    Young people today are glued to their phone screens 24/7.
    Pop culture is left as left can be. Their hero's.
    Corporate America has pretty much embraced 100% the whole PC touchy feely "identity marketing" wave so there's those subtle but ubiquitous and effective non-stop memes.
    Sure, there are right leaning youth.... and deep red states will always be red.... but I think the numbers overwhelmingly favor the left where the under 35 crowd is concerned.
     
    #12     Mar 7, 2019
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    My take on this is that the under-35 vote only matters in swing states for the 2020 Presidential election.

    In states that are solidly left (CA, MA, etc.) the under-35 vote leaning left will increase their margin. In states that solidly lean right, the under-35 vote from left leaning voters will not overtake the solid GOP majority.

    The under-35 vote will have the most impact in swing states. However if the Democrats run a presidential campaign built around identity politics then my take is that it will fire up more under-35 voters who are apt to cast a ballot Trump... than drive the number of under-35 voters who will show up to vote for the Democrat.

    If a Democrats run a candidate who is focused on their pertinent issues such as healthcare, college debt, etc. rather than "identity politics" then these under-35 voters in swing states will be more likely to show up and vote for the Democrat. The bottom line is that many reasonable under-35 voters in swing states are sick of identity politics and want a politician in office who will address their issues.

    Note that the under-35 vote is very different than the black vote in many Southern states (e.g. GA). The black vote with high black voter turnout can have a significant impact on the election in the state. But it should be noted that many black voters who show up in voter drives with buses from churches, etc. are not under-35.
     
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    #13     Mar 7, 2019
  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    I agree with everything you say. Its the swing states that matter.
    I don't think it will be "identity politics" though that will swing the vote.... I think it will be free sh*t.
    Whoever promises the most free stuff.
    "You get a car, you get a car, you get a car...".
     
    #14     Mar 7, 2019
  5. This is why the Dems are having issues, summed up by Abrams nicely:

    "Some observers claim that Democrats' best hopes lie in addressing the concerns of voters who have deserted them for the Republican Party, such as the elderly and white blue-collar workers.

    But Abrams said that the historic high turnout of black, Latino and Asian voters in the state — which nearly got her into office — vindicates her campaign's efforts to reach out and address the concerns of a swath of the electorate usually ignored."


    Focusing on minority voters who are often ignored is a good PART of the strategy but to make it 100% of the strategy is like preaching to the choir. Going after the voters who turned away is a much bigger pool and includes several more states where EC votes were lost. To do that is to focus on the issues that matter to them. Dems have not done that yet in 2 elections so let's see if 3rd time is the charm.
     
    #15     Mar 7, 2019
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Pushing reparations and absurd voter repressions claims like Abrams may fire up the black vote but it won't help much with the under-35 vote in swing states. In fact it may fire up more under-35 people to vote for Trump than for the the Democratic candidate.

    Reaching out to black, Latino, and Asian voters is one thing.... pushing identity politics is another.
     
    #16     Mar 7, 2019
  7. smallfil

    smallfil

    The younger crowd favors Socialist policies like free education, free monies, free everything! So, they will be voting for Progressives or the most extreme liberals around like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders. However, there is a schism in the Democrat Party between the extreme liberal Socialists vs the establishment Crony Capitalist Globalists to which Hillary Clinton is part of! Both sides hate each other with a passion. I do not see too many voters on each side supporting whoever becomes the Democrat nominee for POTUS. Good for President Donald Trump and the Republican Party.
     
    #17     Mar 7, 2019
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  8. elderado

    elderado

    You'd be surprised. Once they're off mommy/daddy insurance policies, pay for their own cars and have rent/mortgages to pay, the younger folks don't feel like contributing much to the even younger's college educations, etc. through additional taxes.
     
    #18     Mar 7, 2019
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  9. smallfil

    smallfil

    That might take a few more election cycles. Extreme liberal professors have done a heck of a job brainwashing most of today's millenials into hating capitalism and the rule of law! And to think parents sending their kids to Ivy League schools are part of the problem. You are paying huge sums of monies to fund the huge salaries and perks of extreme liberal professors so that, they can turn your kids into rabid progressives you hate even you and what you believe in!
     
    #19     Mar 7, 2019
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    He was right
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    #20     Mar 7, 2019