About that so called 'birth announcement'

Discussion in 'Politics' started by fhl, Aug 10, 2009.


  1. Claims about travel to Pakistan using a non-US passport


    Others suggest that Obama could not be a natural born citizen because he traveled to Pakistan at a time when there was a ban on United States passport holders entering that country, which means he must have traveled using a non-US passport. The OC Weekly comments that these assertions are not true:

    The Pakistan "travel ban" is a complete fabrication based on zero evidence and completely contradicted by State Department records and a 1981 New York Times article.[42] [43] [44]


    http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/travel/cis/southasia/TA_Pakistan1981.pdf
     
    #11     Aug 10, 2009


  2. A birth notice for Barack Obama was published in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin on August 13 and August 14, 1961 respectively, listing the home address of Obama's parents as 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in Honolulu.[16][34] On August 3, 2009, in response to the growing controversy, the Advertiser posted on its Web site a screenshot of the announcement taken from its microfilmed archives. Such notices were sent to newspapers routinely by the Hawaii Department of Health.[34]

    In a scathing editorial published on July 29, 2009, the Star-Bulletin pointed out that both newspapers' vital-statistics columns are available on microfilm in the main state library. "Were the state Department of Health and Obama's parents really in cahoots to give false information to the newspapers, perhaps intending to clear the way for the baby to someday be elected president of the United States?" the newspaper asked sarcastically.[35]
     
    #12     Aug 10, 2009

  3. if you are born on US soil,you are a natural born US citizen

    When 2 Mexican illegal immigrants have a child in a California hospital,that child is a natural born US citizen
     
    #13     Aug 10, 2009
  4. jem

    jem

    really - care to cite case law.
     
    #14     Aug 10, 2009
  5. The state of hawaii wouldn't lie no more than the state of ohio would do illegal checks on joe the plumber for obama.

    Nah, it wouldn't happen.

    I'm not a birther but you have a lot of growing up to do.


     
    #15     Aug 10, 2009
  6. We do know that When an African man has a child born on US soil that that child is a natural born US Citizen.You can see that to be fact on TV everyday :)
     
    #16     Aug 10, 2009
  7. NOt case law but the 14th Amendment:

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

    A case to look at:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark

    enjoy
     
    #17     Aug 11, 2009

  8. 1. Provide a verifiable source that legally defines natural born citizen in the scenario you described and the offsprings eligibility to hold office of POTUS.

    2. In the scenario you describe, would the child be legally entitled to dual citizenship, and if so, can a person entitled to dual citizenship be POTUS under the letter of the law?

    3. Setting aside party line differences, as US citizens, why should we the people as a whole, not hold candidates for POTUS to the same standards as those who will serve under him/her?
     
    #18     Aug 11, 2009
  9. You need professional help, as in intensive psychiatric treatment.

    I am not even exaggerating.



     
    #19     Aug 11, 2009



  10. Assuming the information you provided is correct regarding the aforementioned travel ban, and said ban was actually a travel advisory, I stand corrected on that matter. Thank you for the clarification.

    Nonetheless, there is no known record of the halfrican having ever held a US passport until after he became a US senator and was issued a diplomatic passport by default. So once again, I ask you how did he enter Pakistan during the 1980's and what country of origin passport did he use to do so? Note that the halfrican or his handlers has never refuted he entered Pakistan on an Indonesian passport as is suspected.
     
    #20     Aug 11, 2009