About SOCIALISM in Cuba. I am Cuban..ask me about my experience

Discussion in 'Economics' started by jueco2005, May 13, 2009.

  1. lrm21

    lrm21

    Socialism has never meant well.

    Socialism would actually work if it meant well.

    Think about that.

    Socialism fails because people are greedy, and when you transfer control from one group to another (Capitalists to Statists) nothing changes, except where the money is sent.

    There are 2 kinds of people that promote and wants socialism/communism/facisim/ or my catchall statism State control for the benefit of the collective.

    1) Evil motherfuckers who just want to be in charge and tell you what do do with your life

    2) Sheep who like to be told what to do.

    In both cases, there should be no concern for the slaughter.

    I am born to Cuban parents.

    Dont ask about the healthcare

    Ask about the;

    Politicall Prisoners, the toture, the families destroyed, the children coopted into the communist boot camps the property stolen, and the enslavement of the sheep for 50 years.

    My Uncle 17 years in a cuban prison for doing what any college kid did at his age, protest the government.

    My Grandfather-in-law a political prisoner, was routinely stood next to at the Paradon (The Wall) for a mock execution, sometimes that would stand him up and execute the guy next to him. Hows that for torture.

    Plus other shit he wont talk about.

    My brother in law was taken from his family in the preteen years into the communist camps, to cut sugar cane in the summers. Good work.

    Statism in any form is evil it does not mean well. That just propaganda to get the sheep to go along.
     
    #41     May 13, 2009
  2. Oh, that story was nothing. The only reason I survived is because I'm related to prominent (thus, connected) doctors. Oh, but the stories THEY can tell you.

    How about giving a woman in labour a paralyzing drug so that she can feel every bit of her pain but the nurses don't have to hear any of her screams while she's in labour because she's can't scream as a result of the drug.

    Russia was a socialist totalitarian country for much longer than Cuba. Give it time. Or, hopefully, it will just change on its own and you can avoid the whole mess.

    In the 1970's my father left our worker's paradise to visit yours. Your paradise was much closer to paradise than our paradise - if only because of the location.
     
    #42     May 13, 2009
  3. toc

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    "Socialism has never meant well.

    Socialism would actually work if it meant well."

    Very well said! Kudos!! :D :cool: :p :)

    Socialism never worked anywhere, in any shape or form. Period!
     
    #43     May 13, 2009
  4. Eight

    Eight

    I see the current implementation of Socialism in the US as a means to destroy the country. The Trilateral guys have been working to bring up Japan and Europe and bring down the USA to where they are economic equals, thus Socialism in the USA. They also want the same morality all three places thus gay marriage is a HUGE issue...
     
    #44     May 13, 2009

  5. No no no. Too complicated.

    Politicians are doing what politicians always to - playing on people's ignorance and fear of uncertainty to increase their own power and thereby increase their own wealth. They will support whatever issue will make them the most powerful.
     
    #45     May 13, 2009
  6. toc

    toc

    'I see the current implementation of Socialism in the US as a means to destroy the country.'

    Yes, if the currently 'temporary socialism' is not reversed once the immediate and emergency requirements are met...........the US will be destroyed. The basis of US strength and growth is and was the 'Ethics and Fairness' based free market principles (at least mostly, not to deny there is also corruption in US system).


    Also, Un-Godly items like Gay Marriages, open and even encouraged homosexuality and several other topics........if they gain strenght, the immorality of it all will result in very rapid decline of the US and global societies. These issue gained more power in the 1990s and US has started its decline soon after.

    Ethics, Morals and Fairness with even some kindness and humane consideration in a free system will lead to progress and happiness. As simple as that! :D
     
    #46     May 13, 2009
  7. I'm well aware of this particular philosophy, however I should point out the existence of an opposing view that holds money & power as completely unnecessary to the vagina acquisition process.

    The opposing philosophy states that all you have to do is go up to a chick and flick your tongue at her like a lizard. She will then respond to this stimulus by promptly sleeping with you.
     
    #47     May 13, 2009
  8. In case you've never read Orwell's <i>Animal Farm</i>, you really should- You'd like it!
     
    #48     May 13, 2009
  9. toc

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    'In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women. '

    Captain! you got to take another trip and think in solace.

    Opposite is true, Your statement is more in line with the Socialist, Commie countries where Idealism is preached. That in turn 'mass produces' nerds, geeks and dorks who cannot think outside of what they have crammed from their ciricullam books and have very hard time fitting into the social circles and are 'jerk off' virgins until 26-28.........:D :D

    In the western societies, if it is all free for those who want to enjoy the dating, mating and the alligating well into the afternoon. Having extra money helps, but that is not a prereq :D :D :D :D :D

    Thinking outside the box was a crime in the 'worker's paradise'. :D
     
    #49     May 13, 2009
  10. You're right. It's not socialism. It's fascism. The difference is that under socialism the means of production are directly owned by the state whereas in fascism the means of production are nominally owned by private entities but controlled by the state via regulation and legislation.

    The latter more accurately describes the United States, Canada and Britain.

    You have a funny way of defining "standard of living" since Canada's GDP per capital is lower than the U.S. So is almost every other country you mention.

    Norway is a poor comparison for any other country because Norway is tiny, doesn't allow immigration and has a very high natural resource (oil) per capita ratio.
     
    #50     May 13, 2009