Please enlighten me concerning ANY of the aforementioned gentlemen even whispering that they were Pro-Life. I so envy you, and wish that I had the ability to make things appear as I want them to be, rather than having to deal with that as they really are.
I gotta disagree with you there...there seems to be a lot of shows that are shoved down the publics throats in an attmept to make us accpet or view things a certain way...look at all the talk shows, rickki lake, ect....every one seems to be " Im secretely having sex with _______( your freind, brother,mother, dog, ). Ratings are way down on network tv compared to 20 years ago yet they keep pumping out the same crap...
Some really good news and perhaps a lesson to people in high places. For the past 3-4 years I have been very active in The Food Bank, part of America's second Harvest in Raleigh. And by active, 5-10 hours per week of my time. What I appreciate about the program is that it has very low admin costs and most of the donations go to children. Each dollar = about $10 to $15 in food going to about 800 agencies in the NC area. The Story From Last Night. I was asked if I wanted to Take donations at the Bruce Springstein concert in Chapel Hill. Mr Springstein is a big supporter. Pre-concert we collected about $1800 between the two gates. Toward the end of the show the Boss spent 20 seconds talking about the counties served and the benefits. Applause of course, but.... As the concert let out we were swamped with people and I mean swamped. People pushing $20s in the jars. We ended up in the 30 to 40 minutes it took people leaving the show collecting $4000 more. 3 times the amount because someone in a high place sold it as important. Excerpt from the email I just got: We finally finished counting the money and drum roll pleaseâ¦. The total is $5,938.51, 550 pounds of food, a nut and a washer. I can only think the good our politicians and other influentials could do if they were a little less focused on getting elected and more focused on doing and getting people to do the right thing. Oh and the nut was my fault, I put it in my jar when my post got swamped with donations.
OK brother you got it. Here you go. Flip-Flopping..Look what these presently "pro-choice" politicians said previously about abortion -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AL GORE Gore used to be pro-life, until he decided it wasn't to his benefit politically. I now have copies of Al Gore's voting record on abortion, his letters to constituents, and other documents. (everything quoted below and more) If anyone wants copies. Please stop back in the next few days to see a complete list of Gore's abortion flip-flop record. * In 1980, Gore wrote a letter to NATIONAL RIGHT TO LIFE, supporting the Hyde Amendment. * On June 26, 1984, Representative Al Gore cast an extremely pro-life vote. While debating the Civil Rights Act of 1984, Representative Siljander proposed the following amendment. "For the purposes of this act, the term 'person' shall include unborn children from the moment of conception." After debate, Mr. Siljander demanded a recorded vote. The amendment was defeated 219 to 186. Among the recorded votes for the amendment was that of Al Gore. This amendment was in direct opposition to Roe v Wade, not just one against federal funding for abortions. In addition, he denied even casting that vote on Meet the Press on Feb. 21, 1988, and a Gore advisor stated to U.S. News and World Report on March 7, 1998, that: "Since there's a record of that vote, we only have one choice. In effect, what we have to do is deny, deny, deny." * In Iowa and New Hampshire, questions at Gore's open meetings focused on health care and education. In Los Angeles, they ran the gamut from welfare reform to the environment, as well as a number of questions about Gore's commitment to individual rights, such as gay rights, rights of the disabled and civil rights. Abortion continued to be an issue for Gore, who was asked by reporters in Venice about comments he made during his 1976 congressional race suggesting that a woman's "freedom to live her own life" does not always outweigh the rights of a fetus. Source: "Democrats Take Race to West Coast In Costly California, Key Goal Is 'Free Media'" By William Booth and Lois Romano Washington Post Staff Writers Friday, February 4, 2000; Page A06 (this is one document I do not have a copy of) * During his tenure in the U.S. House (1977 to 1984) Gore voted pro-life 27 times and had a 84% pro-life voting record. * In letters to a constituents, he wrote: "It is my deep personal conviction that abortion is wrong. I hope that some day we will see the current outrageously large number of abortions drop sharply." (Letters from Sept. 15, 1983, August 22, 1984, ) * In a May 26, 1987 letter to a constituent he wrote: "During my 11 years in congress, I have consistently opposed federal funding for abortions. In my opinion, it is wrong to spend federal funds for what is arguably taking of a human life. Let me assure you that I share your belief that innocent human life must be protected, and I am committed to furthering this goal." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rep. Richard Gephardt (D-Mo.) "Life is the division of human cells, a process that begins with conception.... The [Supreme Court's abortion] ruling was unjust, and it is incumbent on the Congress to correct the injustice." Mr. Gephardt wrote in 1984, "I have always been supportive of pro-life legislation. I intend to remain steadfast on this issue.... I believe that the life of the unborn should be protected at all costs." In 1987, however, Mr. Gephardt decided to run for president, and he soon announced that he had discontinued his support for pro-life legislation. Specifically, he informed the National Right to Life Committee, "I do not support any Constitutional Amendment pertaining to the legality of abortion." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sen. Edward Kennedy, [D-Mass.], in a letter to a constituent, August 3, 1971 "While the deep concern of a woman bearing an unwanted child merits consideration and sympathy, it is my personal feeling that the legalization of abortion on demand is not in accordance with the value which our civilization places on human life. Wanted or unwanted, I believe that human life, even at its earliest stages, has certain rights which must be recognized -- the right to be born, the right to love, the right to grown old. "I share the confidence of those who feel that America is working to care for its unwanted as well as wanted children, protecting particularly those who cannot protect themselves. I also share the opinions of those who do not accept abortion as a response to our society's problems -- an inadequate welfare system, unsatisfactory job training programs, and insufficient financial support for all its citizens. "When history looks back to this era it should recognize this generation as one which cared about human beings enough to halt the practice of war, to provide a decent living for every family and to fulfill its responsibility to its children from the very moment of conception." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Clinton, in a letter to Arkansas Right to Life, September 26, 1986 "I am opposed to abortion and to government funding of abortions. We should not spend state funds on abortions because so many people believe abortion is wrong." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reverend Jesse Jackson - he endorsed the Hyde Amendment in an open letter to Congress that opposed federal funds used for "killing infants." Mr. Jackson wrote the following statements in a 1977 National Right to Life News article "There are those who argue that the right to privacy is of [a] higher order than the right to life ... that was the premise of slavery. You could not protest the existence or treatment of slaves on the plantation because that was private and therefore outside your right to be concerned. "What happens to the mind of a person, and the moral fabric of a nation, that accepts the aborting of the life of a baby without a pang of conscience? What kind of a person and what kind of a society will we have 20 years hence if life can be taken so casually? It is that question, the question of our attitude, our value system, and our mind-set with regard to the nature and worth of life itself that is the central question confronting mankind. Failure to answer that question affirmatively may leave us with a hell right here on earth."
Your cut and paste above is most compelling. In essence it says that the four men are personally against abortions - most abortion supporters are, few if any people are not saddened when a woman finds herself with an unwanted pregnancy. Several remarks above were somewhat out of context, but that aside, where might find any comment from the men mentioned where they call for an end to a woman's right to an abortion outright? I would remind you that George W. Bush is on record as saying that he is opposed to abortion, but would support the law as it now stands, and would do nothing to overturn it. And that's a fact jack - it does not take any statements out of context, as your post does.
HAHAHAHAHAHA OK buddy you keep going on believing what you want, they could not have been more specific. I guess it's true, people believe what they want to believe. Can't tell them otherwise. And I support Bush too, I would not change the legislation as it is now either. My point is I don't think the gov't should tell you not to get an abortion, you should know better yourself. That's like saying I need to gov't to tell me rape, murder and incest is wrong. LOL. OK man whatever. At least you proved my point. You are both deaf and blind to the truth. LOL. Oh and your statement to me was show me where those 4 people said that and I did. LOL. You are too funny man. Even for a liberal. LOL.
...no my dear boy, I did not make your point. Allow me to remind you of what your point was. You said that the four were pro-life, and changed their views when running for office. None of them renounced their previous destain for the procedure, nor their personal desire that no woman would seek such. The issue is a woman's right to make such a choice, not the personal views of the men you mentioned. You may "LOL" till your heart's content - but it does not change the fact that you were wrong, you remain wrong, and I am hard pressed to think of anything you have ever posted that was not wrong.