“Ayn Rand and Jesus”

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by nitro, Oct 3, 2011.

Is Ayn Rand and-Jesus at odds with each other at its core?

  1. Yes. We must either choose morals or economic well being.

    13 vote(s)
    22.0%
  2. No. It just takes hierarchical modes of thinking to unify our entire belief systems.

    25 vote(s)
    42.4%
  3. I don't know.

    4 vote(s)
    6.8%
  4. I don't care.

    17 vote(s)
    28.8%
  1. heypa

    heypa

    Apparently this situation is undesirable.
    The solution will probably be to confiscate the (wealth ) of those undeserving geasers because they should not profit from life experiences.
    Therefore the gummt should distribute the monies confiscated from the old folks to the immature young since the are much more able to manage it.
    Of course after taking their usual obscene administrative cut.
    Cancel Social Security and medicare. That should level the playing field.
    National wealth doesn't seem to follow this same progression.
    I wonder why?
     
    #31     Nov 7, 2011
  2. That's what Stalin and Mao said, too.
     
    #32     Nov 7, 2011
  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    Is this perhaps a statement of the essence of "trickle down economics"?
     
    #33     Nov 7, 2011
  4. nitro

    nitro

    #34     Nov 7, 2011
  5. nitro

    nitro

    "The Census Bureau reports about 100 million Americans—one in three—live in or perilously close to poverty..."

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/45385480
     
    #35     Nov 21, 2011
  6. nitro

    nitro

    #36     Dec 5, 2011
  7. It depends on what you mean by "bettering oneself." One could become more emotionally aware and sensitive and better oneself in other related spiritual type ways but that is not how you mean it right? The world doesn't become a better place because of making things or consuming things or just doing that cycle for the sake of it because the cycle itself is what makes the world a better place. No, that doesn't make sense in a spiritual way at all. "Better" means something different to a spiritual person, a high EQ high compassion person, to the average person, and to non-empathetic people.

    In some senses, what the above is saying is "buying stuff makes people happy". Consider a survey of depressed people, they don't want gifts or stuff, we know that isn't the solution, it doesn't always make the world a better place. It has it's place in the world, yes of course, but some may think it's not in the right place. ;)

    If everyone is equally rich or wealthy isn't then everyone equally poor as well? If everyone has more than what they need, an abundance of everything they voluntarily want and a few people have a bit extra and a few people don't ... is everyone equally rich emotionally speaking? Sure there may be differences in what one chooses to spend wealth/time on, but each person has similar access to wealth and time to live as they please. Is anyone looking around and wanting what someone else has in that case or any reason for anti-depressants, etc?

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    #37     Dec 5, 2011
  8. This is completely untrue. Jesus engaged in the most pure form of voluntary exchange possible, and encouraged his disciples to do the same as far as I know. He told'em to go where they are welcome, to exchange what they know for food and shelter and things they need. Weird, that sounds familiar!

    Are you really seriously asking why any historically well known religious figure wouldn't just "go get a 9-5 type job" or "be a CEO" instead of doing what they did? Wow. I suppose you don't see it, but that says (implies) a lot. Yes he was viewed as harmless, but Pilate never told him to go get a job, not even when he saw him. If he wanted to I'm sure he would have.
     
    #38     Dec 5, 2011
  9. This deserves a bump. Efficiency usually means work more for less.
     
    #39     Dec 5, 2011
  10. nitro

    nitro

    #40     Dec 5, 2011