AAPL weekly strangle

Discussion in 'Options' started by turkeyneck, Jul 19, 2011.

  1. I don't care what his motivation was. It's a binary play. It's not a bet on implied vol.

    You buy a one lot strangle... you short 100 shares in the AH from 400-405... 20-25 netted and a gain of 3-8 points. It traded above his BE all night. I never stated it was 80-delta prior to earnings. I am referring to a position delta in today's session.

    You're fubar on all points.
     
    #21     Jul 20, 2011

  2. I'm glad you don't care about his motivation, but you're not understanding the trade. He put out an OTM strangle bet on earnings, making a directional play looking for a large move. even stated he might sell the put and ride the call, implying he was expecting the calls to be worth more than his premium in today's trading. He never talked about using stock to lock in the trade otherwise he would have been watching it the entire time. and I don't know who apparently taught you that since its a binary play that IV isn't a factor, but they're wrong. That trade might not have been a direct bet on vol, but that doesn't mean its not a big factor.

    Point is the trade was not a good bet. Any other "possibilities" don't matter anymore either. You want to have a pissing contest, make it on something that hasn't happened yet.
     
    #22     Jul 20, 2011
  3. Good solution .... But based on hindsight. Should have been posted over here before earnings, the OP posted his idea the day before his trade.

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=223730
     
    #23     Jul 20, 2011
  4. lol he posted it after the report. Next time I will read his thoughts before he has them. Have you decided on pills or the elevator shaft?
     
    #24     Jul 20, 2011
  5. No, it's not a factor when you're deep ITM. He wasn't betting on STAT vol, that's the point. The OP is aware he would take a shit if the stock traded to his strikes.

    Watching it the entire time? HTF do you know what he's thinking beyond what he's posted? I think you take it up the ass... am I clairvoyant?
     
    #25     Jul 20, 2011


  6. For someone who is asking how i know what he's thinking, you sure are making a lot of assumptions on his trade and why he did them.
     
    #26     Jul 20, 2011
  7. 07-19-11 06:03 PM

    Just bought this strangle before close:

    Long AAPL Jul 22 375 Put
    Long AAPL Jul 22 380 Call

    Net debit: 16.90

    Right now the trade is at breakeven AH post earnings. Would you recommend closing the trade at open or close just the put leg and let the call leg ride into expiration?

    Thanks!




    He posted at 6pm, asking about a recommendation for the next day. So I am not clairvoyant, I just know how to read and comprehend words. You should try it sometime. Might help you understand options a little better, although those hindsight trading systems I'm sure work very well for you.
     
    #27     Jul 20, 2011
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    #28     Jul 20, 2011
  9. watching the ah trade, there was ample opportunity to scratch or make a few on this. Waiting for the open was pure gambling.

    didnt act right after the 1st 5 min post halt

    they fugged up GOOG, but the options market had this pretty well pegged.

    and if they dont kill earnings , it trades 20 lower.

    who is short this rat, and who isnt long already?
     
    #29     Jul 20, 2011
  10. spindr0

    spindr0

    I'm not looking to get in the middle of the contest ... but I disagree with you. With exp 3 days away and the calls deep ITM, it's a binary play since they'll trade near parity in the AM. IV isn't relevant... other than the questionable buying of it.

    Obviously, you can't trade the options after hours so the support/adjustment has to be made with the UL. If I had this position and it was up 25+ pts AH (over 400), I'd lock in some, maybe all of the gain because perverse things happen overnight and I like my sleep :)
     
    #30     Jul 20, 2011