A US Marine speaks out

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Nolan-Vinny-Sam, May 19, 2004.

  1. Ok about this thread.


    The thread was not intended to be an open season for attacking or defending our Marine's actions. Shheeeshhhh

    Granted this is chitchat and just about anything goes.....


    The thread was to bring a first hand view from a 12 year old veteran Marine on what has been going on down there.
    No "embedded reporters", no partisanship, no legalities, just his recollections and feelings...


    A first hand glimpse from our people that fight this mess in the front lines, on what is happening both to our soldiers and the Iraqis.
     
    #61     May 20, 2004
  2. Ummmm Vinny.....


    Vinny the idiot says:WHERE in my statement above, I am "clearly claiming there is an incosistency in Turoks statements"?????????(your quote) where??? where you numbskull????


    VINNY:I don't see how you can claim that his is delusional and a liar


    GEEEZZUUUUZZZ you must be SO humiliated right about now :p
    Understandable. :p :p


    I guess your so fu**ing stupid you dont even understand
    what you wrote yourself. Its right there plain to see.
    You pointed out an inconsistency that doesnt exist.
    Oh well... your brain dead. I guess thats a good excuse.


    Geeezuz..... then you spend a whole page attacking me
    when its obvious you have been crucified.

    Well... I guess that explains your incredibly emotional attack, now doesnt it? :p

    Poor Vinny gets ripped to shreds again and throws a maniacal
    temper tantrum, thus verifying he knows he just got his ass kicked :D

    What a sore loser.
    Now run off and go cry to momma Vinny :p

    Geezzuz...you sound about as fu**ing stupid as longshot.


    peace

    axeman



     
    #62     May 20, 2004
  3. Dr. Mr. Hall Monitor:

    "Cutting through crap" is a responsibility bestowed on you by?

    "Has" to be done by you....since that is your purpose in life? (OK, makes sense, since clearly there is no other purpose afaik). No other reason for your existence is there? No family, no wife or kids, no job, so yeah, being a "hall monitor" seems like a good vocation for you.

    Fascinating how in your very private and secret little world, things are as you say they are? (Just as things work in the mind of a 2 year old).

    You have made your point. A thousand times. You don't believe what I say. Not about anything. Not about what I went through in SE Asia, not even trivial things, like that I was LED TO BELIEVE when I was 16 that a Corvette was a more difficult car to learn to drive a shift shift on than a VW (btw, how do you know which engine my father's car had?). Nope, you are not obsessed with me. That is very clear!

    You don't believe me as far as who I know. You don't believe that my son is my son:confused: (that one still takes the cake).

    You don't believe that I skied in the Alps despite my posting a scan of my lift ticket.

    You don't believe I worked in Chicago or Monaco.

    My wife "allegedly" died.

    I "allegedly" leased a new car last June.

    BTW, regarding the car I "allegedly" leased: You, in your bizarre way, admitted to stalking me on the Z4 forum....then claimed that the reason you frequented the site is that you have an interest in cars. That it had nothing to do with me being there (despite the fact that you said you read my "prolific" posts). But you also claimed that you HATE the design of the Z4. The forum in question is exclusively about the z4. Not about BMWs (or any other cars) in general. Only about that one particular model. But it isn't because of ME that you go to that site. It is because you want to know all about a car you HATE. I see. Makes perfect sense.

    For several days you clamored for me to "prove" that I had gotten a visa to go to France. Because when you "trapped" me by getting me to answer the question you asked repeatedly.."where was your visa issued", and I finally caved in and answered "Chicago", you went wild with joy...because you claimed I could not have gotten a visa to go to France in 1988. France did not issue visas. But wait!!!!l I scanned the visa. This was very quickly followed by your explanation of how you lied for the greater good. :confused:

    So fine, you have the right to believe or disbelieve anything you wish.

    You even have the right to stalk me and comment on every post I make. (as you do). If I don't post, you just talk about me behind my back. Like in the Atkins thread to which I never posted. And many others.

    I saw you had written a long dissertation about me at 4am, and asked why I was so important to your life that you found it imperative to write about me at such an ungodly hour. I asked if your obsession kept you awake. To which you responded that there was no reason to believe that you lived in the Eastern time zone. But you do. So 4am posts about me are very "normal". Again, you obviously are NOT obsessed with me. That is very clear to us all. LOL

    You are clearly within your rights saying anything you wish about me here on ET. (regardless of the hour you say what you are compelled to say it).

    That your behavior is that of a deeply disturbed human being is obviously not a concern of yours. The first step, as they say, is recognition of the problem. Here we have a case in which you see no problem, and if you did, it would be at odds with your reason to be.

    Taking your investigation of me (and of Aphie as well, and probably of others I am unaware of) is just sad and disgusting. But again, you seem to enjoy your sick behavior, so who am I to judge? If you think your obsession is healthy and/or fun, (which clearly you do), by all means, keep it up.

    Obviously the fact that the majority of ET members see you as a pathetic and lonely and very bored and overweight sad case seems to not bother you in the least. And the truth is, you are right to not care what others think. You certainly have more pressing worries than that in your life. But Max, the act is too transparent. We DO see that you DO care that your life is empty. You DO care what others think. You have admitted this in your way......if you really did not care what others think, you would not be so obsessed with your weight problem.

    So since you DO care, perhaps you should seriously consider altering your behavior. That might lead to a more fulfilling life for you.

    Just some friendly advice. I am sure you will not take it, but at least I feel like I have done a mitzvah by trying to give you some good advice. Which is simply GET A LIFE OF YOUR OWn! My life is already spoken for. Which you seem not to understand.

    Now, back to your regularly scheduled program of attacking me. This time I actually addressed you, so you should be able to go to town. You had your jabs at me out of nowhere lately. All the posts you directed at me without me making any reference to you at all.

    Well, here I am, making a post about you. So this should provide you with an opportunity to have a field day. Enjoy! Really go to town! Open season on RS. Have a ball! Anything goes (However, why not see if you can make ir REALLY interesting, and tell us all something we haven't already heard from you a thousand times already?) Max, time for new material. How many times are you going to quote what I said here over two years ago???

    Oh, and when you respond, as I am sure you will feel compelled to do, why not skip quoting this whole thing? Or if you must as you normally do, why not explaing that compulsion to us? Very interesting (at least to me) that you need to waste space by quoting my entire posts....Is that just another obsession? Or is there a purpost to it?
    Peace,
    RS
     
    #63     May 20, 2004
  4. I think the UN should make war illegal, make war a crime against humanity. Anyone who start it first will be tried for crime against humanity. Maybe countries should disarm and fund a UN army to police the world.

    I will always walk away from a war, leave it to idiots.
     
    #64     May 20, 2004
  5. “I was involved in a criminal endeavor on behalf of our Department of State.

    I was technically NOT sent there to be "in combat" and even though I was shot, I never knew by whom. I have a scar, but don't know who pulled the trigger.

    I was captured and held prisoner along with 4 others. We were kept in a "tiger cage" (covered hole in the ground), where we froze at night and cooked during the day. Each day of that was far worse than a month in any american prison, I assure you.

    Our "guards" were 15 or 16 year old boys with weapons they did not know how to use.

    I myself did not look down and see my leg missing. But I did see it happen to someone that was no more than 20 yards from me. And I did see the look on his face. I see it still.”



    -------------------------------------------------

    I can't tell you how many times, but I can give you a time period... forever.

    Why, RS7? Because fakers like you, who brag about combat you never experienced, deserve to be uncovered as the liars you are.

    Your ridiculous tall tales of "secret missions" desecrate those slain while serving their country.
     
    #65     May 20, 2004
  6. "Secret mission" is your word. Not mine.''

    "Brag"? Show me where. I said very clearly I was not proud of what I did or how I ended up being there. To your twisted mind this is "bragging"?

    "Faker"? Says you. Based on your inability to accept the FACT that hundreds of thousands of us were drafted because they would not accept you? While I sincerely wish I had never gone, I am to this day grateful that they did not take obese mental cases like you. Had I been with cowardly and physically unsuitable others like you, I would probably not have survived.

    If every word was a lie (and they are not) who the hell are YOU to (avenge?) those "desecrated"? You think having sat out Vietnam can be, in your demented way, justified by appointing yourself as some kind of "avenger"? Too fucking funny!

    I come from a family of those who served. Both my grandfathers fought in WWI. My dad was a very high ranking officer in the Army Air Corps and served in WW II. I served. My son is serving right now.

    You sit and tell us "War is good". Easy to do from your very safe keyboard. If I were as devoted to researching your old posts as you are devoted to mine, I could easily find your quotes of how war is good. How we SHOULD invade places we have no business invading. How willing you are to send the sons and daughters, husbands and wives of OTHERS to satisfy your blood lust.

    It is YOU who desecrate the memories of those slain. You sat on your extra large ass and never served. Judging by your words here, you probably thought NOT ENOUGH young Americans died in service to their country (whether drafted or enlisted). You clamored for war in Iraq.....good call! Are you not satisfied though, because another 50,000 US troops have not given their lives (yet)?

    Max, you sicken me. You sicken everyone here.

    Don't believe me? Ask around.

    So yeah Max. Appoint yourself as an "avenger". It has a ring to it. No truth, but a ring. You served no one. No war veterans, not your country. NO ONE. NOT EVER. NOT IN ANY WAY.

    You never have, and you never will. No wonder you admire the Cheneys and Rumsfelds of the world. So willing to send others to fight and die. Do it yourself? Hahahaha. FAT (emphasize FAT, pun intended) CHANCE!

    Look at your politics. Kerry served. You despise him. GWB did not serve. You think he's a gift to our nation. Gore served, you despise him. Cheney and Rumsfeld, you idolize.

    Why don't you believe I served? Because you cannot accept the fact (the very real fact) that those who hate war the most are those who served. You didn't serve, so you think war like a video game.

    Please go find a message board more suited to you. One about right wing politics and one that is about the "good" of war.
    While I believe you will have an easy time finding a right wing political message board, I think you may have a tough time finding a pro-war board. I think you may find yourself in your usual place....sadly alone.

    Certainly a trading message board is not a proper venue for you.
    Just a place for you to troll.

    I asked months ago...perhaps years ago to show us one single post you ever made in regard to trading. One idea you ever shared or discussed related to trading.

    You are worthless here (as in life). Find another board to haunt.
     
    #66     May 21, 2004
  7. my god there all on this thread. haha :-/
     
    #67     May 21, 2004
  8. "...and though we had no "official business" being there, we were. I was."

    "...you will understand that I was involved in a criminal endeavor on behalf of our Department of State. We had no legal right to be in Shan Country."


    Oh, please RS7, you are promoting this fake "combat mission" as one that is obviously "secret." And of course it's a "secret mission" that way, no one can check your honesty. However, there are more holes in your story than Clyde Barrow's 1934 Ford.

    OK, to list just a few of your "Hey everyone, look at me" bragging:

    Even I... could have 100k days in either direction.

    I was a Market Maker on the CBOE"

    I have known thousands of traders and trained hundreds.

    Broker for Merrill Lynch

    Day Trader for large firm

    Private money manager for small group

    Dated a famous movie star before she
    was a star.

    Owned a business in Aspen.

    Owned a business in NY.

    Arrested for draft evasion.

    Ski instructor

    Made and lost a lot of money a lot of times

    Unfinished masters from Ivy League school.

    Played guitar* at the Fillmore East with the Allman Bros.

    *later changes it to a "bass guitar."

    Introduced Greg Allman to Cher

    And one of the latest facets in the life history of RS7: My Daddy had a Corvette
     
    #68     May 21, 2004
  9. why dont you two take your cat fight outside i speak for all when i say we weary of your lover's spat :-/
     
    #69     May 21, 2004
  10. Nah, maybe we will get another RS7 "swan song" post.
     
    #70     May 21, 2004