A Truth on Trading.**Everyone, please Read**

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Bullz n Bearz, Jun 19, 2007.

  1. gaj

    gaj

    murray - fair enough. i had a few things in my advantage:

    1) i had been trading from the security of my job for a few years before that.
    2) i was able to make money during those years except one (i didn't include those in my numbers because i wasn't trading as a job) because i was dumb, and the bull market of the 90s rewarded dumbness. cup and handle? gotta buy it! news comes out? buy options for extra leverage! i learned to stop doing those before i started trading on my own, after i read a zillion books on the history of the markets (wyckoff, livermore, etc.)
    3) i had sold baseball cards for years as a kid, and in the 80s (when there were huge market inefficiencies) would buy huge amounts of rookie cards and sell them, so i learned about selling into nutty buying frenzies.

    so it wasn't totally the same. but i did feel all sorts of fear and other emotions once i started trading on my own (with no 'backup' job) that couldn't be expressed, or understood, until i actually started doing it.
     
    #101     Jun 20, 2007
  2. Well not in my universe... so thats erroneous....
     
    #102     Jun 20, 2007
  3. Agreed, this is nothing more than someones opinion.

     
    #103     Jun 20, 2007
  4. If you had asked me my opinion when I was experiencing his type of trading problems I would have said... Dont Overtrade.....

    Everytime I bit off more than I could chew, I got choked....

    When I backed off and made it manageable, I became profitable. The more I kept it that way, the better.
     
    #104     Jun 20, 2007
  5. Well good news about the truth on trading.. I made a cool @195 profit today and my limit order to exit was filled. I definatly feel that if you want to last long term in the trading world, you must take your profits and hold on to them. over trading is bad behavior.
     
    #105     Jun 20, 2007
  6. right, but that doesn't mean dismiss it as "one's opinion' either. there is a fine line between opinions that matter and ones that make no sense, i think this opinion is one that matters.
     
    #106     Jun 20, 2007
  7. Nothing wrong with trading smaller size till you are comfortable in your trading style....

    Greed Kills
     
    #107     Jun 20, 2007
  8. one trader mentioned something once that really hit home with me. he runs a trading room, and he set up a thing where each member calls out ONE trade a day (in the YM) and one only. he found that these trades were very successful with very high expectancy? why? well, when you are limited to choosing one setup a day, you tend to be very discriminating and objective. do you miss out on lots of good trades? SURE! but so what?

    i recommend any beginning trader in the dow futes concentrate on looking for 3 good trades a day. no more.

    2 in the morning session and 1 in the afternoon would be good.

    if you feel the NEED to trade (electronic crack) then open up your SIMtrader, or play a video game. two very dangerous things for a trader are to get sucked in out of boredom and to chase (fear of missing a move).
     
    #108     Jun 20, 2007
  9. I have found that playing poker during the lulls helps also.


    I play a lot of play money poker on Full Tilt during the lunch and early afternoon hours (used to be for real money until the new legislation kicked in). I also approach this endeavor in a realistic manner and am trying to build that account up to 1M.

    So what if it's just play money, the discipline is similar and you get action. The last thing I need is excitement in my trading and my poker has just about become excitement-free as well.

    Just concentrate on each hand as it comes, make the best decisions you can at the best time and stay alive.....hmmmm.....


    Good Luck!
     
    #109     Jun 20, 2007
  10. you can play real money on bodog..
     
    #110     Jun 20, 2007