A thought on the people that came up with global warming & evolution

Discussion in 'Politics' started by peilthetraveler, Oct 13, 2010.

  1. Not really. See for example:

    http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dating.html

    Using two different techniques to refine a date is not circular. And even before the technology of radiometric dating - and the Origin of Species for that matter - paleontologists noticed that fossils almost always appeared in certain order in strata, and came to the conclusion that the earth was much older than what had been thought.

    OK - "people did studies"? Point me to a source for your 70-80% finding of these "people doing studies".
     
    #31     Oct 14, 2010
  2. it should be pointed out that it was christian geologists in search of evidence for noahs flood that first determined that the earth was old and that a flood could not have happened.

    http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/p82.htm
    A History of the Collapse of "Flood Geology" and a Young Earth

    From the mid-seventeenth (c. 1650 AD) to the mid-eighteenth century (c. 1750 AD), a range of British mathematicians, naturalists, and clerics from the Church of England attempted to demonstrate that belief in a global biblical deluge was perfectly compatible with extrabiblical knowledge and the latest theoretical developments in mechanistic science. They maintained that the fact that such a deluge had occurred could now be established not only on the basis of biblical authority but also on mathematical and scientific grounds. Their various theories reflected different conceptions of natural theology, the roles of science and theology, and the bearing of Scripture on the interpretation of nature. Their diluvial cosmogonies provided a mainstream scientific paradigm that stimulated hard thought, biblical exegesis, widespread geological observation, and some of the earliest geological experiments.
    But if these seventeenth-century cosmogonies were on the whole plausible given the limitations of the geological science of the day, they were nevertheless seriously flawed in other ways -- perhaps most notably by the fact that their proponents based them on relatively small bodies of favorable evidence and tended to ignore damaging evidence. The cosmogonists generally avoided the insurmountable problems of animal distribution and migration, for instance, and resisted determinations that geological strata are not arranged in order of specific gravity. On the other hand, the theorists were for the most part committed to providing honest scientific accounts of physical processes associated with the flood, and they resisted making appeals to miracle in order to resolve difficulties in those accounts.

    In the end, the old diluvial cosmogonies fell victim to their own success. The genuine spirit of scientific inquiry that they engendered and stimulated gradually produced a wealth of geological discoveries that undercut the premises of diluvialism. All manner of different field observations indicated that geological strata could not be the remains of layers of soft sediments deposited together at the same time. Furthermore, the plethora of exegeses of the deluge account raised doubts in many scholarly minds about whether the Bible was being properly used in trying to settle questions of geological history. By the middle of the eighteenth century, few competent proponents of diluvialism remained
     
    #32     Oct 14, 2010
  3. Isnt it interesting you will believe what a Christian says as long as it fits in with your world view?
     
    #33     Oct 14, 2010
  4. it fits the evidence we see.
     
    #34     Oct 14, 2010
  5. More accounts of Dinosaurs in the last 3000 years (biblical and non-biblical accounts) Isnt it strange that in cultures that never met, they all seem to have accounts of dragons (which is what dinosaurs were called pre-1800s.)

    http://www.anzwers.org/free/livedragons/dragon.htm
     
    #35     Oct 14, 2010
  6. They also all have accounts of men flying.
     
    #36     Oct 14, 2010
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    Peil, can't the possibility (or in your case, the certainty) of a creator coexist with the reality of evolution? I'm serious, why can't they?
     
    #37     Oct 14, 2010
  8. JamesL

    JamesL

    There is no creator, there was no evolution. We were brought here by aliens.
     
    #38     Oct 14, 2010
  9. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Kinda like Elvis in a UFO? :)
     
    #39     Oct 14, 2010
  10. "The Ica stone craze began in 1996 with Dr. Javier Cabrera Darquea, a Peruvian physician who allegedly abandoned a career in medicine in Lima to open up the Museo de Piedras Grabadas (Engraved Stones Museum) in Ica. There he displays his collection of several thousand stones. Dr. Cabrera claims that a farmer found the stones in a cave. The farmer was arrested for selling the stones to tourists. He told the police that he didn't really find them in a cave, but that he made them himself. Other modern Ica artists, however, continue to carve stones and sell forgeries of the farmer's forgeries. In 1975, Basilio Uchuya and Irma Gutierrez de Aparcana claimed that they sold Cabrera stones they'd graved themselves and that they'd chosen their subject matter by copying from "comic books, school books, and magazines" (Polidoro 2002)."

    http://www.skepdic.com/icastones.html
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    The international archaeological community has discounted these stones as a hoax but many other influential proponents hail from the worlds of extraterrestrial enthusiasts, mythic specialists, and young earth creationists. Two of the most prolific of the young earth creationists who focus on the human and dinosaur co-existence factor are Don Patton and Dennis Swift.



    Today, people still believe in the authenticity of the stones despite the fact that this authenticity has been disproven. Problematically, the stones cannot be dated as no organic matter is found on them, nor can the strata where they were found be dated - the location of the cave has conveniently been kept a secret."


    http://pseudoarchaeology.org/b03-ross.html
     
    #40     Oct 14, 2010