A solution to the oil crisis: Ban all new Suv and large trucks sales

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by mahram, May 3, 2006.

  1. MRWSM

    MRWSM

    These are not stories I'm talking about, they are fact. There's company's converting hybrids into plug in hybrids that make a Prius get 250 MPG. Just think if the electric range of 50 miles is enough to get you to work and back, essentially you are not using any gas, so much better than 250 MPG. This can be done easily on larger SUV's also.

    GM is a bit late but they are working on it. They will have a 2 mode Hybrid for the 2008 Yukon. Current Yukons get 21 MPG Hwy which is about what my mother gets on her tiny Hyundai Sonata piece of crap. Although GM's hybrid is late, it out classes the Toyota hybrid. Anyone who doesn't know what a 2 mode hybrid is, a simple explanation is it takes the best of the Toyota design and the Honda Insight design which is designed for long trip MPG and combines the two. This allows the Yukon to continue making better MPG in traffic or on long trips, plus they have an exclusive electronic CVT transmission with no cheap belts or pulleys like current hybrids. Now all they have to do is add a plug in feature with a 50 mile range and there you have it. No manufacturer is currently admitting that they plan on releasing a PHEV but GM is working closely with QTWW on developing them.

    You ask why GM would not come out with it if they could? Basically GM like all other car company's are influenced somehow by big oil. Proof of this is how hard they fought electric vehicles in California with the help of big oil.

    Without even trying hard and one hand tied behind their back, GM was able to come out with the best electric vehicle ever, the EV1 Gen 2 that the owners loved. It had all the extras like traction control, anti-lock brakes, AC, power everything, keypad ignition, ultra modern interior. So GM is definitely capable, they just need to be forced to do it.
     
    #71     May 5, 2006
  2. its a trading forum, but everything has an effect on the market and stocks. Like today, president bush saying he would lift tariffs on imported ethanol. Seems like it wont effect stocks, but it push down adm 3 points. Things that seem out there previously, seems more likely. Who would have thought president bush would anger the bible belt states with dropping tariffs on ethanol. It would be insane, and its a midterm election year.

     
    #72     May 5, 2006
  3. Unfortunately...this is going to be a very slow process.....

    Most energy efficiency projects are 20 to 30 years.....


    Oil could bounce from $5 to $400 .....
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    When a vehicle appears whereby one could get 100 miles from the battery ...and if need be switch to an internal combustion option that is also very efficient...this is when the Americans or any other country will shift over....The big winners being those that live relatively close to work....and Ford and GM will want to initiate production facilities in China not the USA...unless the dollar yuan ratio changes with longevity...
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    The US government also needs to realize the premiums that their sabre rattling and other confrontational communique causes....

    This is why it is very difficult to believe that the Bush Cheney decisions were made as if they were not cognizant of the effects on oil prices...since both themselves and their supporters are directly in the oil business....

    This premium is currently in the $25 per barrel range...
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    Without doubt...the 100 mile electric range vehicles with the internal combustion option will work...but it will be a 15 year project starting from the first sale..

    And without doubt...alternative energy grids can be be established over a 20 to 30 year period that truly offer positive energy ratios....

    Without doubt...as long as the oil welfare states exist and they can harvest oil for less than $10...since more than 80% of their revenues are derived from oil...thus they will reap havec on alternative fuels that cost over $10 and the consumer will always show excessive amounts paid versus oil....
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    The hybrid with the 100 mile electric range is indeed a good direction...and is a long term project as well....
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    #73     May 5, 2006
  4. dchang0

    dchang0

    The market isn't as short-sighted as many people think. Just take a look at the very inspiring cover story in May 2006's SFO Magazine about how Dr. Richard Sandor voluntarily set up the Chicago Climate Exchange to reduce air pollution--quite successfully, I might add.

    Companies trade pollution credits on the exchange and some inventors have come up with ways to CREATE and sell credits. They've actually BEATEN the results that a government mandate would have produced alone because people came up with more and better pollution reduction techniques.

    And it is all done via free-market mechanisms! This is far better than any government mandate, which doesn't create positive incentives for change but instead uses coercion.

    Relying on government mandates and bans is the real short-sighted solution, because people are not successfully motivated in the long term by coercion alone. It takes far more energy for a slave driver to keep cracking the whip to produce less with more people than for him to wave dollars in front of the enterprising few who will accomplish more with less cost.
     
    #74     May 5, 2006
  5. dealmaker

    dealmaker

    #75     Feb 13, 2017
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  6. Good + great points,Gord. Fracking + free markets work well.LOL
     
    #76     Feb 17, 2017
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    Considering that you are responding to an 11 year-old thread, and that Gord's profile is no longer viewable, it may be safe to assume that the user "Gord" will not see your reply.
     
    #77     Feb 19, 2017
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    Maybe right; but there are plenty of traders besides him. Repeating pattern again ; free markets + fracking work well.NOT a prediction.
     
    #78     Feb 21, 2017
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Supply and demand, how does it work?
     
    #79     Mar 4, 2017
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