A sense the housing market has bottomed.

Discussion in 'Economics' started by S2007S, Nov 14, 2006.

  1. jasonjm

    jasonjm

    last downturn didnt have massive inflation, nor global economy with global marketplace

    nor did it have weak dollar.....

    I used to agree with the housing complete blowout idea,
    now i dont anymore...

    you just have to look at what rents have done in Los Angeles to understand that the market is not going to completely implode

    right now I can buy condos in los angeles, where the monthly rent will cover the mortgage easily....
    2 years ago you could never do that.

    People are going to use housing as their inflation hedge, thats what the goldbugs and doomsday types dont seem to understand in my opinion.

    plus, stats now show 80% or more of the population is now housing bearish and believe in a housing bubble.... since this is a trading forum, that should ring alarm bells for any of you who trade, being bearish when the crowd is bearish usually doesnt turn out well.
     
    #61     Dec 23, 2006
  2. jasonjm

    jasonjm


    i admit all you guys could be right, but if there is such a glut of stuff on the market, how do you all explain rents going through the roof?
     
    #62     Dec 23, 2006
  3. jasonjm

    jasonjm

    hey question for all, lets say i believed all yours hypothesis of massive crash

    what are the laws regarding getting a 10 year interest only no money down mortgage in california?

    lets say 10 years down the line a condo i bought had lost 50% of its value...

    can i just hand the keys in to the bank and say "its yours"

    what are the repercussions of doing so?

    thanks all
     
    #63     Dec 23, 2006
  4. Adobian

    Adobian

    So you can buy condos and rent out. How much can you rent out buying a 600K home ?
     
    #64     Dec 23, 2006
  5. jasonjm

    jasonjm

    if you pick the good areas right now, a nice 3 bedroom 700k condo will rent out for $4k per month

    shitty 2 bed house in good area that costs 800k will rent out for $4500
     
    #65     Dec 23, 2006
  6. Adobian

    Adobian

    #66     Dec 23, 2006
  7. fusionz

    fusionz

    I agree with jason on his views on housing. Pretty much everyone is bearish on housing, even realtors to some extent. Inflation has already been pretty high the past few years contrary to the CPI number and I think part of the home appreciation was due to keeping up with inflation. With continued high inflation, house prices will once again rise double-digits.
     
    #67     Dec 23, 2006
  8. Adobian

    Adobian

    McDonald, Jack in the box, you can buy a burger for 99 cents.

    New cars can be had for $7000 .

    Beautiful clothing at Walmart goes for $7-15, cheaper than 15 years ago .

    15 years ago, an engineer makes 40K average. These days, IT engineers makes about 55K .

    Where is inflation ?
     
    #68     Dec 23, 2006
  9. jasonjm

    jasonjm

    uhhhh let me see

    the bmw 330i I bought 16 months ago has been replaced by the 335i which costs 15% more in 16 months

    my health insurance has gone up 250% in 6 years (and I have never claimed a single thing and the benefits are the same)

    my sisters college fees go up close to 15% per annum

    gas has doubled in the last few years

    food has gone up Id say 10% a year

    housing is up 10% plus a year

    rents (both commercial and residential) are up I'd say 75% over the last 4 years

    no, i dont see any inflation, do you?
     
    #69     Dec 23, 2006
  10. bgp

    bgp

    adobian good points, jasonjm what we call whats happening now in the economy is called stagflation. just type the word stagflation into google and read some of the articles. some articles are written in 2002,2003. just off on timing.

    peace,
    bgp
     
    #70     Dec 23, 2006