A sense the housing market has bottomed.

Discussion in 'Economics' started by S2007S, Nov 14, 2006.

  1. I would choose to believe him. What motivation does he have to lie?
     
    #221     Mar 8, 2007
  2. So if the property taxes will be higher, why do these fools agree to a rebate, instead of just paying the lower price?
     
    #222     Mar 8, 2007
  3. TM1

    TM1

    Same reason auto purchasers take the cash rebate instead of the 0% financing?

    I suspect though that the seller is not offering the choice of lower purchase price.
     
    #223     Mar 8, 2007
  4. Because the builder won't let them.

    That's because if the builder sells for the lower price, and has more homes to sell in the subdivision, any additional mortgage applications prospective buyers submit will be based for approval on 'comps,' or what comparable homes sold for.

    It also makes the builders books look better at quarter end, because they can play games with the rebates to show revenues in a variety of ways.
     
    #224     Mar 8, 2007
  5. I obviously haven't heard all his quotes then. Every time I see a quote from him, its usually, "we don't see a bottom yet". Of course, I usually only hear about the guy when reading housingbubbleblog.com, and they rarely print the rosy quotes.

    Thanks, for bringing this to my attention. I will filter what Robert Toll has to say from now on.
     
    #225     Mar 8, 2007
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    #226     Mar 9, 2007
  7. jem

    jem

    In my area of florida, taxes are based on fair market value. Closing price is one factor.

    When it comes to time to argue taxable value you may use resales to establish your estimate of fair market value.

    Then if you smart you also argue that the taxable value should only be 6-70 percent of that number and you provide stats to back your point up.

    So it does not matter what the builders are getting in fla if resales are lower. And right now resales are lower.
     
    #227     Mar 9, 2007

  8. did the mess in the sub primes spill over to you???

    nah..that couldn't be possible..
     
    #228     Mar 9, 2007
  9. More of the same from the folks who know:

    Hovnanian Doesn't Expect Quick Recovery
    Friday March 9, 4:08 pm ET
    By Janet Frankston Lorin, Associated Press Writer
    Hovnanian Doesn't Expect Quick Recovery in Housing Slump

    NEWARK, N.J. (AP) -- A day after homebuilder Hovnanian Enterprises Inc. reported a second consecutive quarterly loss, its chief executive officer said he doesn't expect a quick recovery to the housing slump.
    President and Chief Executive Ara K. Hovnanian also said the company has not yet seen the bottom of the housing market slowdown.

    "It's not getting worse, and it is slow but steady," he said Friday in a conference call with analysts.


    http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070309/hovnanian_housing_market.html?.v=1&printer=1
     
    #229     Mar 9, 2007
  10. ALL BUSINESS: Homebuilder Talks Straight
    Friday March 9, 12:23 pm ET
    By Rachel Beck, AP Business Writer
    ALL BUSINESS: D.H. Horton's CEO Breaks Out of Housing Bust Spin Game With Negative View

    NEW YORK (AP) -- D.H. Horton Inc.'s CEO Donald J. Tomnitz said what most others in the housing business wouldn't when he proclaimed on Wednesday that 2007 "is going to suck, all 12 months of the calendar year."

    His blunt assessment contrasted with much of the spin that has been coming from lenders, realtors, trade groups, home builders and others in recent months. There haven't been many straight shooters discussing the housing and mortgage market collapse...

    http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070309/all_business.html?.v=1&printer=1
     
    #230     Mar 9, 2007