A scoop for not paying tax :)

I listened to an interview of a guy that was a tax protester. After a couple of decades he was in his mid 70's, his life was in ruins, the IRS came to his property and confiscated stuff that did not belong to him with no warning, they laughed in his face when he asked to see a warrant, etc.

If you are thinking of becoming a war lord and not paying taxes I strongly suggest you wait until the federal government is so weak you can pull it off. It will happen eventually, nobody knows when but they all go eventually.

I also heard some guys on the radio recently that were taking advantage of the tax reform act of 1998 which has a rule in it that the IRS must follow their own procedures. They were using the freedom of information act to get the documentation that the IRS was following their own procedures and the IRS could never provide that and all their clients were getting off of paying. That is probably a less dangerous route, just having an attorney do all the work, no big questions about constitution etc, thus no protest. I might go that route just for fun to see what happens, presuming I could afford to pay penalties if I'm wrong.

This current system wherein the public sector never, ever, has enough money and never will, will really crush a tax protester. I would emigrate to a third world country and pay off a dictator before I would become a tax protester.

Max

 

I had a roomate who was a massive conspiricist and came from a whole movement in Idaho called Freemen. He didn't even have a SSN and I imagine will eventually be in trouble.

The only way I know of to not pay taxes from market gains is to short companies which are going bankrupt, then never cover.

 

http://groups.google.com/groups?sel...prod.itd.earthlink.net&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain

Using his investigative skills that his CPA license and IRS training
provided him, he examined three separate allegations:

1. That no law exists which requires the filing of the income tax. The act
of filing a return is voluntary and has to be because of the 5th Amendment
to the United States Constitution.

2. That the 16th amendment to the Constitution, the so-called income tax
Amendment, was never properly ratified -- not even by one state.

3. That the income tax does not provide necessary revenue for the national
government since the monies used by the government is provided by the
Federal Reserve creating fiat money.


also
Bill Conklin is a paralegal and tax consultant who has 6 published wins against the IRS in the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals.
http://www.anti-irs.com/

 

if he have no SSN and work for cash he is invisible to tax system.

 

You could very well be right. He appears to be receiving paychecks and using a 'made up' ssn though.

 

Bill Conklin is, in my opinion, just another scammer. For the text of his purported 6 court victories see the link below.

It's humorous that people believe anything they read.
One of his "victories" was a narrow win against a guy who sued him for welching on his bet that nobody could prove him wrong.
Someone did prove him wrong. He welched. The guy sued.

That's hardly a victory against the IRS or US Government.

www.quatloos.com/conklin-chip.htm

 

"I had a roommate who was a massive conspiracist"


Does this mean he was a fat guy who believed in conspiracies, or that he conspired to gain weight?

 

There was a good article in Friday's WSJ about the matter of avoiding taxes. To sum it up. Two business men went to Ernst and Young (One of the countries largest CPA firms) and met with two tax partners. The partners proposed a way through partnerships that the men could shelter the tax due on the sale of the business they just sold.

Fast forward two years, the IRS says the shelter was illegal. THE MEN OWE THE TAX, and penalties. The IRS is suing E&Y and the men are suing E&Y. Oh, and the men paid E&Y a fee of 7 million for this grand advice.

The implications should be clear to anyone who wants to be too cute with the IRS. Case law is still your best defense in taking a tax position. Other than that, the code is really subject to interpretation and even "Good Firms" can lead people astray.

 

Max,
could you be more specific as to what method you are referring to here?
Thanks in advance!

 

Here's my take on avoiding taxes.

I am not recommending this, but just saying...

Forget off shore trusts. Those are red flags. Just live within your "means". Move money around a lot in 50 different brokerage accounts. Confuse the living piss out of them. Then file everything to the letter of the law. If they come to audit you, show up with a U-haul full of documents and tell them to have a blast.

None of them will waste the time, but rather just take your word for it.