A Retail's Day Trading Experiment

Discussion in 'Trading' started by ironchef, Sep 20, 2023.

  1. ironchef

    ironchef

    Thank you. Didn't expect it but really appreciate this post.

    I don't fully understand but there is enough for me to chew on so I won't pester you with more questions.

    Best regards.
     
    #91     Sep 23, 2023
  2. ironchef

    ironchef

    Don't congratulate me yet. We may all be fooled by randomness here.
     
    #92     Sep 23, 2023
  3. One of the things I've become painfully aware of is that day trading in many ways feel like a job as you do have to show up on time and stay put at your computer. So, it's not for everyone.

    Set it and forget it may work well with stocks that are trending off the open, but most of the time it's not suitable for day trading index futures which is my focus as you'll easily get stopped out of an early entry on a deep pullback before resuming the main move for the day.
     
    #93     Sep 23, 2023
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  4. PPC

    PPC

    It’s hard to explain things in a paraph or two, plus I’m terrible in explaining things in English.

    Nevertheless, if you’re aligning your intraday trades (M5 or higher) with H1, or H2 and with daily timeframes, then your losses should be reduced.

    Since picture is worth thousandwords, here is one example of the concept for trend trading intraday (there are many other ways to approach it)

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    #94     Sep 23, 2023
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  5. Jzwu2017

    Jzwu2017

    My experience has been it’s harder to ride a trend than scalp or do short term momentum trades during day trading. You probably will be stopped out 90% of the time unless your stop is wide, which would result in significant losses after a few wrong trades.

    On the other hand, for beginners it’s far easier to learn scalping and short momentum trades first and train for the vital risk/loss control. Once you gain enough experience you can start to try longer trend trades.
     
    #95     Sep 23, 2023
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  6. ironchef

    ironchef

    I think you understand what I am doing. :thumbsup:

    This post resonates with my experience. That is how I ended up with 10-15 trades every hour and trading off 1 min: Avoid large loss is job 1.

    Since I am writing my response, let me add another:

    1500 individual trades, win/loss is 50/50 meaning it is like a coin toss: random.
    50 day trades, win/loss is 85/15, non random?

    My conclusion: Data is too skimpy to draw a definitive conclusion because I am taking the difference of two large number (entry & exit prices) to extract a very small number (profit).
     
    #96     Sep 23, 2023
  7. Hey Ironchef, I have really enjoyed your posts over the years. You do not come with an ego or pretense and feely admit what you don't know.

    Someone said that the real test is in the live market and since you are trading stocks the live market is the perfect way to practice. Obviously you plan to put over 25K into your account so you can experiment with 1 share trying to make $1 per day or whatever you might have as your expectation.

    There are zero commissions so you have an excellent chance to succeed. The only fee is the small SEC fee and if you are only trading one share they will charge you a penny on each trade but will credit back to you the overcharge before the next day's opening. Last time I traded stocks the fee was $8 per million is sales volume.

    So get on your horse and ride into the storm and whip those big guys. Good Luck!
     
    #97     Sep 23, 2023
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  8. Jzwu2017

    Jzwu2017

    @ironchef, you will definitely feel it if you have a real edge.

    I have been looking at the market for over 10 years. Only a few years ago one day I suddenly felt I could see the market clearly once or twice a day. At that moment I realized I finally gained some edge.
     
    #98     Sep 23, 2023
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  9. ironchef

    ironchef

    Thank you @Illini Trader. I laughed when I read your opening paragraph because it is funny.

    To me, it is absurd to brag and pound my chest in an anonymous internet group. Besides, if I brag, I need to bluff. You guys can see through that in a microsecond. Be humble and learn as much as I can is a better alternative.

    And thanks for your encouragement. I will do it for all the aspiring new day traders.

    You are another good guy here. Best wishes.
     
    #99     Sep 23, 2023
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  10. ironchef

    ironchef

    :thumbsup:

    I want to share this Steve Jobs speech with the new aspiring traders:



    Like Steve said, it is like connecting the dots. As you travel through life, you have no idea what they were preparing you for. But if you have passion and keep working at it, one day you will be able to connect the dots and it is all there.
     
    #100     Sep 23, 2023
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