A religion of peace which worships the same God? not per ISIS and Burke

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by jem, Sep 8, 2016.

  1. jem

    jem

    According to the former head of the Vatican’s highest court, Cardinal Raymond Burke (pictured), Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God, since Allah is a “governor,” whereas Christianity was “founded on love.”
    The modern belief that Islam and Christianity are fundamentally the same “is very much influenced by a relativism of a religious order,” the Cardinal said at a recent pressconference.

    “I hear people saying to me, well, we’re all worshipping the same God. We all believe in love. But I say stop a minute, and let’s examine carefully what Islam is, and what our Christian faith teaches us.”

    “I don’t believe it’s true that we’re all worshipping the same God, because the God of Islam is a governor,” Burke said. “Sharia is their law, and that law, which comes from Allah, must dominate every man eventually.”

    The Cardinal said that unlike Christianity, sharia is “not a law that’s founded on love. To say that we all believe in love is simply not correct.”

    Not only do Christianity and Islam differ in the nature of their laws, Burke proposed, but also in their approach to proselytism and winning over converts.

    In the end, he said, we have to understand that “what they believe most deeply, that to which they ascribe in their hearts, demands that they govern the world.”

    The Cardinal’s words echoed recent remarks by a senior Catholic prelate in Hungary, who warned that the enormous waves of migrants rolling into Europe are due in no small part to a Muslim “will to conquer.”

    “Jihad is a principle for Muslims that means they must expand,” said Archbishop Gyula Marfi in an August interview. “The earth must become dar al-Islam, that is, Islamic territory, by introducing Sharia—Islamic law.”

    Both prelates’ words, in fact, find confirmation in recent assertions by the Islamic State itself in the latest issue of its propaganda magazine, Dabiq.

    “Indeed, waging jihad – spreading the rule of Allah by the sword – is an obligation found in the Quran, the word of our Lord,” the text reads.

    The Islamic State was specifically reacting to Pope Francis’ claims that the war being waged by Islamic terrorists is not religious in nature, assuring the pontiff that their sole motivation is religious and sanctioned by Allah in the Qur’an.

    “This is a divinely-warranted war between the Muslim nation and the nations of disbelief,” the authors state in an article titled “By the Sword.”

    ISIS attacked Francis for his claim that “authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Quran are opposed to every form of violence.”

    Pope Francis “has struggled against reality” in his efforts to portray Islam as a religion of peace, the article insists, before going on to urge all Muslims to take up the sword of jihad, the “greatest obligation” of a true Muslim.

    In a July press conference, Pope Francis told journalists that the world is at war, but that is not a religious war.

    “Every religion wants peace,” he said.

    In his press conference, Cardinal Burke insisted that “what’s most important for us today is to understand Islam from its own documents and not to presume that we know already what we’re talking about.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...nd-burke-muslims-christians-dont-worship-god/
     
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    Good points; Islam is NOT a religion of peace, never has been, never will be. We are God blessed , in that so many muzzies do not believe much of anything.
     
  3. java

    java

    Neither is Judaism. Read that Old Testament sometime. Nothing in there about loving your enemy. A few stories about killing every man woman and child. 10 commandments to live by, the rest is to insure the Supremacy of Israel in the middle east. They call it Judeo-Christian. Saved our ass. Can you even imagine all the grief we would be getting if Jesus wasn't born a Jew? Close call for us. Time for Islam to also find a peace loving sister religion. Islamic-Buddhist values, how's that sound?
     
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  4. My religion is good, yours bad, and everybody says so!
     
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  5. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I would wager man has killed more people in the name of Christianity than every other religion combined.
     
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  6. java

    java

    Like I said, we picked a winner. What winner has Islam ever picked?
     
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  7. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Is that how you see the world?
     
  8. java

    java

    That's how everybody except Christians see the world.
     
  9. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Clearly not as you see the world that way.
     
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  10. luisHK

    luisHK

    It makes sense, but the issue - socially, not necessarily what the Vatican's employees state-, is more about how today's Islam compares to other religions in today's state (I care little about Christianity or Islam btw, and what god they think they worship, just thought i'd answer that part).
    Crusades and Inquisition are a thing of the past for christians - hopefully it will remain so, but religious tensions sure seem on the rise.
     
    #10     Mar 8, 2017
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