A record 4.3 million workers quit their jobs in August

Discussion in 'Economics' started by ipatent, Oct 12, 2021.

  1. ipatent

    ipatent

  2. piezoe

    piezoe

    How could anyone argue with this statement? Yet I think it should be examined more closely and we should ask why is our current state of affairs such as it is.

    In Gore Vidal's last half of the 20th Century he often remarked that there was little difference between the two political parties. The reason he gave was his insistence that both parties took their marching orders from the major Corporation CEOs and the Banks. And Banks and Corporations were unified in wanting "Socialized welfare for corporations and free enterprise for individuals."

    I have now lived nearly as long as Vidal, who died in 2012. I note that we have had periods when there were great gulfs between the parties and times when the differences amounted to a hill of beans. The latter encompassed nearly all of Gores adult life, but the former existed during periods before Vidal was born and now. As a matter of fact, another period of great differences existed during the Depression of Vidal's childhood.

    Our current situation has a parallel in the American Revolution when we were a country divided between those loyal to the current government, the Crown, and those who wanted to overthrow the Crown in favor of 13 Independent Colonies. Today, there are those who want the current order, those who want revolution, and those who don't want either. I would like to be able to say that majority rule will decide, but I no longer have faith in the existence of majority rule. Not anyway since the Senate adopted its rule that certain matters, required by the Constitution to be brought to the floor of the Senate, could be indefinitely forestalled if any one member of the 100 person body, Democrat, Republican or Independent, objected. No particular action of the objector is required, the mere fact of their objection being enough. The only remedy is for two thirds of the Senators to overrule the objector. A condition that in today's Senate is impossible to meet. They might as well have required that the Great Mississippi flow South to North.

    To my mind, this is one of the times in our political history when there is a great and unbridgeable divide between the parties. One party wants to lead and is prepared to, but the other wants to throw out the results of the last election, overthrow the existing order and start afresh with a former reality TV star as its charismatic leader, a leader many of them are scared to death of. Are we again in a period of national insanity, like that leading to the American Civil War? If we are, I would not say that both sides are equally insane. Then as now, one side is clearly more insane than the other.
     
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    #82     Oct 31, 2021
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  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    This may be our best hope for getting single payer. If we can just get costs up to the point that not even Senators can afford medical care, there is hope for constructive change. The other thing that would help is getting costs up to the point that medicare costs start to "crowd out" spending on the F-35. We might be forced to get by with only 1000 new fighters rather than 2500. Now THAT really would cause a calamity. But I suppose the problem then would be solved by just foregoing healthcare so we could keep from "depleting" our military without which we can not maintain "perpetual war for perpetual peace."
     
    #83     Nov 1, 2021
  4. ipatent

    ipatent

  5. piezoe

    piezoe

    Keep looking, there is bound to be a good conspiracy in their somewhere. Damn those pesky socialists.
     
    #85     Nov 13, 2021
  6. ipatent

    ipatent

    That's not what I meant, I meant more Moms (and sometimes Dads) are deciding to stay home because of the continuing fallout from COVID.
     
    #86     Nov 13, 2021
  7. piezoe

    piezoe

    What caused me to make my surly and sarcastic remark was your remark: "I'm trying to track down a story I saw the other day about the authorities trying to hide the drop in K-12 enrollment in NYC ...

    I may have misunderstood that your interest was more in the "trying to hide" than in why the drop in enrollment. If I did, I apologize.
     
    #87     Nov 13, 2021
  8. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    #88     Nov 13, 2021
  9. Sig

    Sig

    Exactly. Perhaps the whole narrative that people were quitting because they were living off the gravy train was never true?
     
    #89     Nov 13, 2021
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  10. ipatent

    ipatent

    Working couples sacrificing the extra income for a while?
     
    #90     Nov 13, 2021