A really interesting long-term chart that contextualizes this market rally

Unhommefou · Sep 19, 2009

Hey Brettman9,

Thanks for the chart.

Is there anyway for either you, or someone else, to post on this same chart the start of every major US war on it? Just curious as to what it would look like...

Random.Capital · Sep 19, 2009

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Is USA declining, or other countrys becoming more productive...
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The latter, IMO.

The reality is most G7 residents are in fact extremely unproductive in a pretty fundamental sense, as what they/we do has virtually no impact on our ability to live long, relatively healthy lives.

This is GOOD NEWS, especially as more of the world's population reaches this state.

brettman9 · Sep 29, 2009

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Thoughts on the dollar in all of this mess:

This is another interesting situation to me, and some have brought it up implicitly or explicitly in this thread.

I have to say, sure I am a bit worried about inflation. But only because I'm worried that people are worried about inflation. The same two sentences could be said about the dollar.

But the comparison with the 1970's inflation doesn't work at all. In other words, it is not the case that the 1970s were a potential deflationary bust that policymakers turned into an inflationary one with excessive monetary support. The roots of a deflationary bust lie in the expansion of a credit bubble and its subsequent collapse. The roots of an inflationary bust lie in the gradual entrenchment across the economy of expectations of an undesirable pace of inflation, and the supplying of enough money to make those expectations actionable.

Hence, the current situation is unique among the three 'supercycle' corrections shown in the original chart in that it aligns, in principle, as a deflationary bust, but unprecedented monetary and fiscal measures have stoked fears of an inflationary outcome.

This has opened the door for reasonable fear about the future of the dollar (and a market for the views of those like Peter Schiff and his ilk).

But the 1970's were an inflationary bust all the way. The problems were, first, government financing of the Viet Nam war, then the untethering of the currency system from the Bretton-Woods limitations, and then the existence of very very stupid mechanisms that promoted positive feedback loops. For example, labor union strength at the time created contractual obligations in a number of industries to tie wage growth to inflation. This, of course, simply meant that, if inflation increased, then companies would have to raise prices to afford their payrolls, which just gave the wage-earners more money to afford the inflated prices.

We know how stupid that was now.

There is no doubt in my mind that there will be unintended consequences for the unprecedented policy effort now in effect. But I'm not sold on it being the death of the dollar.

In fact, I'm inclined to suggest a long dollar strategy. The dollar has been in a bear market for about a decade. Bear markets of that duration, in any asset, conclude only when everyone is convinced that the end-of-the-world scenario is totally believable for that asset. At this point, we are above the summer 08 lows and sentiment is far worse for the currency, which is a potentially important divergence scenario.

In my view, everyone is positioned for the dollar to get decimated and the dollar carry-trade has grown massively in the past 2-5 months, which means a one-sided position of enormous proportion is sitting there just asking for a catalyst to come along and force its unwinding.

And there is one rule I have learned well over the years: that major bottoms are made if and only if the market in question is overwhelmingly positioned for continuation lower. Hence, if you believe central banks are not going to waver in their use of the dollar as reserve currency, then we have reached that point for the dollar.

Note, I understand that the situation is ripe for some sort of reorganization of the reserve currency mechanics. But the idea that China and Japan are going to "pull the plug" on the US is absurd - it would decrease the value or our debts and their assets...you do the math. They're far more likely to intervene than abandon. The same could be said of the ECB. We're more likely in an age of competitive devaluation than anything else.

But the fact that drives my perception most of all is as follows: When you start seeing a clear consensus in public sentiment as expressed by NY Times best-sellers and you-tube popularity that we're heading for a continuation move in a market that has been in a large degree trend for a decade...Watch out!
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I just actually did the YouTube search, and I think it must be seen as an awfully telling sentiment data point. If you search for "US Dollar" on YouTube, you get the following set of results(unedited):

-US Dollar bills (5, 20,50100) contains hidden pictures!

-The US Dollar collapse starts now!

-China UPSET with US Dollar Devaluation Congressman Burton

-The Ultimate American Dollar Collapse

-The inevitable collapse of the dollar

-The Collapse Of The US Dollar

-Japan's unshakable confidence in the US dollar, yeah right!

-Webster Tarpley: US Dollar is Dead

-Ben Bernanke - US Dollar is like GOLD!

-The US Dollar Ready To Collapse?

-US Dollar is Collapsing Euro Rising to $1.47 says expert

-US Dollar A Masonic Code?

-Dollar and US Gov Collapse Starts Nov 2009

-US Dollar Failure Update (Part 1 of 2)

-In-Depth Look - US Dollar, Treasury Markets Under Assault?

-Why the US Dollar is Falling (MTK Style!)

-Crisis Report: China Threatens to Collapse the US Dollar?!?!

This has got to stand out to the contrarian mind.

brettman9 · Mar 10, 2010

As an update, the dollar strength idea mentioned here has obviously come to pass.

But I am starting to buy euros tonight.

Short interest here is at all time highs. Sentiment on the dollar has reversed entirely. I just can't see any other way to go.

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