I see that Hello is afflicted with the obtuse gene. Although I didn't particularly like the joke, normal people know full well it means one thing coming from Maher and quite another coming from someone like bugscoe, Limbaugh or the like -- people with an entirely different predisposition who might actually mean it. It's a bit like differentiating between erotica and porn: most people know it when they see it. Others, Hello, don't.
And what exactly is it in Bugscoes past that makes it mean something different coming from him then it would mean coming from maher? Besides the fact that one is a left winger the other is a right winger? Please feel free to explain this one to me.
No, bugscoe does. Aren't you paying attention? I expressed no approval of the joke. I merely stated the fact that no right-wing "comedians" are worth quoting. It does not automatically follow that everything out of a liberal comedian's mouth is worth quoting (or, in bugscoe's case, stealing). The world is more complicated than the simplistic right-wing world-view allows. I am.
In other words you can post no rational reason for your glaringly obvious double standard, besides the fact that something said by smoeone on the right has a different meaning than something said by someone on the left. That is some set of rules and morals left wingers live by, heads you win, tails i lose. You guys were right about left wing comedians, the shit you say is pure comedic gold.
Whereas the shit you say is just that. Here's a hint. Racists don't get the benefit of the doubt because they gave up their margin for error when they chose to become racist. Racists, and those who support them, are essentially on parole. The moment they deviate from the straight and narrow, they are suspect. Because they are on parole. It is the course they chose. That doesn't mean everyone else can do as they please with wild abandon. Just that those on parole don't get the benefit of the doubt. As a result of the choices they made, they get less leeway. I hope that helps.
So then why dont you show me how bugscoe is a racist, the fact of the matter is that for every joke on ET any right winger has ever made referring to race, i could find you 5 more from Bill Maher, yet somehow you are able to decipher that one is racist and another is not without ever having known anything about these guys personal lives, besides the fact that one is a left winger the other is a right winger.
More importantly you didn't disapprove of it. And we all know why. Gabfly, even after acknowledging the setup, has fallen hook, line and sinker. So predictable. Thanks to Hello for stating all the obvious!
Bill Maher: Post-Racial Racist? By Brad Schaeffer Tue, 06/01/2010 - 16:14 ET Bill Maher a racist? Whoâda thunk it? Actually, anyone who pays even remote attention to the far-left comedic mouth piece could have figured that out pretty quickly. Yes, Bill, I am calling you a racist. This accusation which he so glibly levels at anyone slightly to the right of Che Guevera may come as a shock to him. But he is too busy heaping his moral superiority upon those lynch mob troglodytes who inhabit âfly-over countryâ to ever bother to take a look at himself. If he did, he might come to realize that being truly colorblind or, to borrow a Hopey McChange slogan, âpost racialâ means more than fist-bumping Will.I.Am at a Golden Globe after after party. It means truly seeing the world through the prism of individual not racial identity politics. Granted there are still times when a racially inflammatory comment is so blatant that it must be called out for what it is, even if spoken in jest. As such I was impressed when just this week Maher was genuinely offended when a comedian offered this joke about Obamaâs handling of the Gulf oil spill: âI want a real Black president. I want him in a meeting with the BP CEOs, you know, where he lifts up his shirt so they can see the gun in his pants!â Thatâs a pretty vicious stereotyping of the typical Black man as gun-toting criminal donât you think? Oh, waitâ¦that was Maherâs joke? Oops. Of course, being the darling of the far-left, Maher will get the obligatory free pass from the Thought Police in the mainstream media and Soros-funded blogospheres. But letâs try a little exercise. Please close your eyes and imagine the category five tempest of liberal outrage that would have erupted had a conservative comic like Dennis Miller or, even worse, a media commentator like Rush Limbaugh uttered these words. Ah, yes. In the mindâs eye one sees so clearly the unfortunate gafferâs crucifixion in absentia at the hands of a Real Time panel stacked with race pseudo-fascists like Al Sharpton, Jay-Z and the rest. But when a far-left bobble-head like Bill Maher paints a picture of a âreal Black manâ as a thug with a pistol tucked in his BVDs, oh well, whatterya gonna do? Anyway, how about them racist Tea Partiers huh? Maherâs post-racial racism, if I may coin a phrase, is nothing new. I was first struck by his hypocrisy regarding race relations last year on a Real Time episode that featured Michael Eric Dyson and our friend Andrew Breitbart (as the conservative piñata on the panel). Maher linked a shortage of ammunition facing Oklahomaâs gun shops in the wake of the 2008 election with Oklahomans fearing that âObama and his negro army are going to come and get you.â Right on brutha Bill â¦werd up! Of course what the post-racial comic failed to mention was that a similar run on ammo in that state occurred after Bill Clintonâs election. This tells one not melanin-obsessed that what these gun owners really feared wasnât a band of âNegroesâ but rather a band of liberal lawmakers traditionally hostile to the 2nd Amendment. But when you are a serial racist and self-loathing White male like Maher everything must have a racial overtone to it no matter how far fetched. There can never be another explanation. (And letâs just forget about the fact that Oklahomans of the 90% white Congressional 4th district re-elected Representative J.C. Watts four times in a row.) Being one of those toothless white-robed and cross-burning Neanderthals whom Maher believes populate any area of the country not within sight of an ocean, Iâm confused about Billâs most recent comment. Perhaps one of Maherâs usual post-racial racist suspects can enlighten me on what exactly makes one a âreal Black manââaside from Maherâs gang banginâ persona, that is. Professor Dyson on Real Time offered up in subtle tones one definition, while at the same time providing a revealing glimpse as to just how unreceptive to diversity of ideas is the far left today. In the progressive intelligentsia world (of which Maher believes he is a part), a âreal Black manâ is one who thinks just like they do. He believes that government activism and grievance politics are the only path to right past social wrongs. Furthermore, if you deviate from their line, if you instead believe that personal responsibility rather than a patrician welfare state is the key to your future, although your skin may be dark, you are not a real Black man. Yes, you may say, but Clarence Thomas is certainly a Black man, and yet he has political views that are often quite the opposite as left-wingers like Dyson, Sharpton, Van Jones, and others. Still, as they are liberals, which is synonymous with open-mindedness, they surely must respect all views and this includes Thomasâ as those of a fellow Black man. Think again. As far as Dyson is concerned, Clarence Thomasâa Black man who grew up fatherless and dirt poor in the deep South at the height of Jim Crowe and yet rose to become an associate Supreme Court justiceâis nothing more than, in Dysonâs Real Time observations âa Black person articulating some very powerful notions against Black people.â (In other words he has the audacity to take issue with affirmative action programs he considers harmful to Black interests and condescending). He goes on to vilify Thomas as aâventriloquist as a black skinned person saying ideas that are corruptive of a Black response.â In short, though Thomas and other Black conservatives may have Black skin, their political views preclude them from being ârealâ Black men. They are just shills for âthe man.â So much for diversity. White-guilt ridden Maher, (aka. Beverly Hillsâ Most Wanted) offers his predictable cow-towing to Dyson to earn street cred. by calling Thomas a âBlack man who doesnât represent 95% of Black people.â So be warned Black men of independent thought. In Maherâs world, you must toe the liberal line or be castigated as a traitor to your race. Could it be that, in Maherâs post-racial racist world, Thomas and other conservative Black men are, well, âuppity?â And after all who better to judge oneâs blackness than a white comedian from a lily white neighborhood? In his autobiography, My Grandfatherâs Son, Thomas states: âIâd grown up fearing the lynch mobs of the Ku Klux Klan; as an adult I was starting to wonder if Iâd been afraid of the wrong white people all along â where I was being pursued not by bigots in white robes, but by left-wing zealots draped in flowing sanctimonyâ¦They certainly donât see themselves as being like the bigots in the South. Well, Iâve lived both experiences. And I really donât see that theyâre any different from them.â It was as if he was watching Real Time when he wrote these words. Perhaps if at the next SCOTUS orals Justice Thomas lifts his robe to reveal a Tec-9 stuffed in his waistband, Maher might be satisfied enough to bestow upon him ârealâ Black man bona fides. Only a true racist, even a post-racial one like Maher, would even think in such a way in the first place.