A profitable journal with all entries/exits posted in advance

Discussion in 'Journals' started by 1a2b3cppp, Jul 31, 2012.

  1. jb514

    jb514

    Heading towards zero has nothing to do with tracking errors. It's due to costs and maintenance fees.
     
    #81     Nov 8, 2012
  2. thank you for adding so much constructive information..

    i consider a tracking error to be where an etf attempts to track 3x the move of an index. so if the index moves 1%, and the etf does not track exactly 3%, then i would call that a tracking error. costs and maintenance fees and spreads on options are all reasons these tracking errors exist.

    do you have anything constructive to add?
     
    #82     Nov 8, 2012
  3. I meant I don't want to be adding to a position as the price is going up.

    When averaging down, you're buying more shares at a better price so it's costing you less per share.

    Averaging down into a short position of an inverse ETF is increasing your position at a more expensive price each time.

    I was under the impression that the "tracking errors" occurred over a long period of time because the weighted ETFs attempt to do 2x or 3x the performance of the underlying on a daily basis, but as such the long term performance doesn't always end up being exactly 2x or 3x. I think there's even a note about that in the prospectus.

    I'll check out QLD vs QID over a longer period of time and see what that looks like.
     
    #83     Nov 8, 2012
  4. ah okay i get what you are saying, that makes sense
     
    #84     Nov 8, 2012
  5. Alright:

    SPY: -$391

    QLD: -190

    I kinda just want to close out the SPY position and only focus on QLD now but we will see.
     
    #85     Nov 8, 2012
  6. SPY: -$379

    QLD: -$157
     
    #86     Nov 9, 2012
  7. Daring

    Daring

    You could close it and transfer the equivalent capital to the other one.
     
    #87     Nov 9, 2012
  8. That is actually not a bad idea. The cost would basically be two commissions.

    It would change the average cost, too, but I could recalculate everything based on the new numbers and just buy more/less as necessary.
     
    #88     Nov 9, 2012
  9. I might just make it simple and sell the SPY and buy like 75 extra shares of QLD. It probably isn't equivalent but it doesn't really matter, I just want to focus on QLD right now.

    Then again, that will change my starting amount and make all subsequent adds larger.

    I might just close the SPY position and continue on with the QLD as is, because a few points up with QLD will cancel out the loss from selling SPY early, anyway.

    One thing that will be different is QLD doesn't pay a dividend, so holding positions for extended periods of time won't pay any extra.
     
    #89     Nov 11, 2012
  10. I read somewhere that the market was closed today for Veterans Day so I didn't even watch the market at all today. Whoops.

    11/12/2012:

    SPY: -$369

    QLD: -$160
     
    #90     Nov 12, 2012