A Porn Superstar’s Dating Tips for Men

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  1. Overnight

    Overnight

    Chads get it easy.



     
    #21     May 9, 2022
  2. Looks like you and Dilbert are on the same page.

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    #22     May 11, 2022
  3. The saga continues:

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    #23     May 12, 2022
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  4. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Pekelo's guide to successfully dating women:

    Be rich.
     
    #24     May 13, 2022
  5. themickey

    themickey

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    Trump: "Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything."
     
    #25     May 13, 2022
  6. This explains everything:

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    #26     May 13, 2022
  7. themickey

    themickey

    Sex worker's story held until now by Western Australian state library details life in red light districts like Roe Street
    ABC Radio Perth / By Emma Wynne and Dustin Skipworth Posted 2 hours ago
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05...ow-little-known-life-of-sex-workers/101058118
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    Red light area, Roe Street, Perth, just before the brothels closed, August 17, 1958(Supplied: State Library of WA)

    In 1988, Joan St Louis gave an oral history recording to the State Library of WA detailing her life as a sex worker from the 1930s to '50s on one condition — that it not be released until after her death.

    She died six years later, and the library has now decided to share her story online.

    Joan was born in 1912 in Tasmania and moved to Melbourne in her teens, marrying at 17 and initially working as a waitress before taking up sex work.

    She told the interviewer she couldn't remember quite why she became a sex worker, saying simply "it was just one of those things".

    Joan moved to Kalgoorlie in 1941 where she worked in the mining town's famous Hay Street red light district while her husband worked as a barman.

    Jules Kim, the chief executive of sex workers association Scarlet Alliance, said the recording was a fascinating insight into a little-documented experience and revealed similarities with the profession today, including workers being married.

    "I think people have a misconception that sex workers don't have partners or aren't married, but it's not that unusual," Ms Kim told Christine Layton on ABC Radio Perth.

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    Sex workers outside Kalgoorlie's Club 181 brothel in 1990.(Supplied: National Library/Trish Ainslie & Roger Garwood)

    Joan told the interviewer she was extremely busy in Kalgoorlie — sometimes seeing 20 clients a night at weekends — and that conditions were good.

    "... very nice, very comfortable, carpets, comfortable beds, very clean. There was a housemaid. You visited the doctor.

    "There was everything that was needed, just like an ordinary home, a comfortable home."

    Barred from polite society
    But while the brothels of Hay Street were famous in Kalgoorlie, the women who worked in them found themselves cut off from society, Joan recalled.

    "We couldn't go anywhere. It was just all work and no play.

    "You weren't allowed in the hotels, you weren't allowed to go to the movies.

    "You weren't allowed to go out in public, except shopping. The only pleasure was to read."

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    The Questa Casa is the last of the original brothels still operating on Hay Street.(ABC Goldfields: Sam Tomlin)

    Ms Kim said people might be surprised to learn the same laws that barred the women from pubs in the 1940s were still on the books today.

    "We still have laws in place in WA, the Liquor Control Act, that state that it's an offence to permit a reputed prostitute to remain on a licensed premises, and you can be fined up to $10,000," she said.

    "Now, there's no record of these laws being used since 2000, but they're still on the books and they still can be used."

    Money matters still the same

    Ms Kim said it was noteworthy the payment arrangements almost 100 years ago were very similar to today.

    "[Joan] didn't talk about the amount of money that she made, but she did talk about the arrangements that were in place. It was really interesting to read, because it hasn't changed much.

    "In the first place where she worked, she got 50 per cent and the house got 50 per cent, and that's quite standard.

    "I think people are surprised to hear that, because perhaps in other workplaces that might seem like the house is keeping a lot, but you have to understand that you're getting the infrastructure, security, advertising, are often housed and fed, and the premises's upkeep and cleaning.

    "It's quite standard still in the industry."

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    In 1929 The Truth captioned this photo: "Josie Villa, brothel in Roe Street, that allegedly lures married men to folly and infidelity."(Supplied: State Library of WA)

    At 31, Joan separated from her husband and moved to Perth.

    She worked in establishments on Roe Street — then dubbed Rue de Roe, possibly because of the large number of French women working in the brothels.

    By the end of World War II she was running two houses looking after 11 women, almost all of whom were from the eastern states and needed money to support themselves and their families.

    Many used nom de plumes at work and Joan remembered very busy times when soldiers came into port from all over the world.

    She said, however, the brothels would close when a New Zealand convoy came into Fremantle as the men "get half drunk and go crazy".

    "The money was it. The money was everything."

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    This service station doubled as a secret entrance to a brothel in Roe Street, circa 1929.(Supplied: State Library of WA)

    On the day victory was declared over Japan in 1945, Joan left for London and worked on the street in Piccadilly, before marrying again and moving to Canada.

    "She was quite broke at the time in Canada and she decided that she would go back to being a sex worker," Ms Kim said.

    Eventually she divorced a second time and returned to Perth, once again running a house on Roe Street while continuing to work herself well into her 40s.

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    Jules Kim says stigma stopped Joan from sharing her story publicly while she was alive.(Supplied: Jules Kim)

    "That's another myth about the industry — people expect that everyone's really young," Ms Kim said.

    the Roe Street era had ended; the brothels were closed and demolished for redevelopment and the construction of the freeway interchange.

    At 46, Joan left the industry for good and 30 years later decided to tell her story to the state library for posterity.

    In the recording, Joan looks back fondly at her time as a sex worker.

    "There was money, there was a lot of humour, which you don't get in any other life.

    "You never knew who was going to come into the house. It was interesting. You met a lot of people from different walks of life.

    "In fact, when the street closed, that was the only thing I missed about it. I missed the public. That's about all really."
    Little is known about what Joan did after she left the sex industry.

    Ms Kim said she understood Joan's decision to have the recording kept confidential until after her death.

    "It's not surprising with the level of stigma. Unfortunately, that has not changed at all.

    "She did very well for herself and she obviously enjoyed her work.
     
    #27     May 14, 2022
  8. Here's an interesting take. I saw this video of Doug McGuff talk about HIT training some time ago. I recall he had a few side comments about dating that he was prompted to share after seeing one of the dating talks at the convention where he gave his own presentation. Have a look. It starts at around the 5:20 minute mark and ends at around 11:45.

     
    #28     May 14, 2022
  9. nitrene

    nitrene

    I miss the days of RooshV & Roissy (aka Heartiste). Their blogs were very insightful about culture and why the dating culture was the way it was. I read a few of his "Bang" books and they were pretty good. Interesting that he was a Microbiologist by schooling but abandoned it. I think he is Iranian.

    Roosh's original blog was DC Bachelor which started in 2004 and Roissy was one of the early commentators who eventually started his own blog in 2007. Its interesting that most of the dating blogs back then were all from Washington DC. Roosh was strictly a dating and "Game" blogster where as Roissy was a mix of dating, PUA (Pick Up Artist made famous by Mystery & Game), politics & race.
     
    #29     Jun 10, 2022
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  10. themickey

    themickey

    For 30 years, crooked cops extorted and intimidated these sex workers. Until the women fought back.

    Four brave sex workers brought down the corrupt system they helped create

    By Matthew Condon and Michael Dulaney for Dig: Sirens Are Coming
    Posted 8h ago

    The elderly woman, if you noticed her at all, could be your grandmother, inching slowly along the shaded path with the help of a black walking stick.

    We're waiting for her at a bench in New Farm Park in Brisbane's inner-north. Young professionals in lycra powerwalk the riverside track. Purple electric scooters whiz by kicking up fallen jacaranda leaves in their wake.

    And through this fizz of 21st century life, she moves at her own pace.

    This is Dorothy Edith Knight, 80, a small-framed pensioner who lives happily with her long-time husband Brian in an apartment fresh with the smell of brine from Moreton Bay, north of the Brisbane CBD.

    Dorothy's is a quiet existence, only punctuated by trips to the doctor for her various medical conditions.

    The thing is, Dorothy has been here before, at this bench. Last time she was here, she was wearing a wire — the first person in Queensland to ever do so.........

    Continued...
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-11/sirens-coming-corrupt-cops-queensland-sex-work/101060804
     
    #30     Jun 11, 2022