A Pandemic So Deadly You Have to Bribe People to Get the Vaccine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, May 13, 2021.

  1. Something does not have to be only deadly to be a health crisis or concern.. why does the death rate matter. Polio was not killing people left and right but they still did all they could to prevent it.
     
    #11     May 13, 2021
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  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yes... apparently the COVID deniers simply focus on the death rate.... they don't want to discuss long COVID or other issues.
     
    #12     May 13, 2021
  3. AR15

    AR15

    Cause when we bring up long term "mRNA vaccine" effects you losers are silent : or scream TRUST THE SCIENCE
     
    #13     May 13, 2021
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Once again... anyone referring to an mRNA vaccine as gene therapy is pushing complete antivaxxer nonsense. mRNA vaccines do not alter genes, they are not "gene therapy" or do any "gene replacement" --- all of these talking points are nonsense being pushed by COVID-deniers and antivaxxers. There are no long term mRNA vaccine effects -- this is all anti-vaxxer nonsense.

    It should be noted that other mRNA vaccines for cancer and other diseases have been developed, placed in trials, and studied for years. Any long-term consequences of mRNA vaccines based on the technology are well known by now -- and there are no long term significant consequences related to a vaccine being based on mRNA technology other than other technology.

    Let's get to the facts of the vaccines and long term effects.. We will start with quoting a section of the following article...


    Covid-19 vaccine myths: These reasons for not getting a shot don't hold up. In fact, they'll set the US back

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/28/health/covid-vaccine-myths-debunked/index.html

    'We don't know what the long-term side effects are'
    Any adverse side effects from vaccines almost always "show up within the first two weeks, and certainly by the first two months," said Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown University School of Public Health.

    That's why he and many other health experts asked the US Food and Drug Administration to wait at least two months after trial participants had been inoculated before considering whether to give emergency authorization to Covid-19 vaccines.

    "If there were going to (be) problems ... they would become apparent within two months of people getting vaccinated," he said. "That's what the FDA waited for."

    The most serious vaccine side effects in history have all been caught within six weeks, said Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Children's Hospital in Philadelphia and a member of the FDA's Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee.

    "I would say, please tell me what vaccine has ever been shown to cause a long-term side effect that was not picked up in the first two months," said Offit, a co-creator of the rotavirus vaccine who has studied vaccinology for more than four decades.

    "The smallpox vaccine could cause inflammation of the heart muscle. The oral polio vaccine was a rare cause of polio -- it occurred in roughly 1 in 2.4 million doses. ... The yellow fever vaccine is a rare cause of ... yellow fever. All those occurred within six weeks of getting a dose," he said.

    There may be very rare side effects that aren't immediately found in clinical trials. But that's due to the extreme rarity of those side effects -- "not because it's a long-term problem," Offit said.

    "Sometimes you're not going to pick it up initially because it's extremely rare, so you aren't going to pick up a one-in-a-million risk in a trial of 44,000 people," he said.

    Pfizer/BioNTech and Johnson & Johnson had about 44,000 participants in each of their trials. Half the volunteers got vaccinated, and the other half got placebos.

    The Moderna trial had about 30,000 participants, with half receiving vaccines and half receiving placebos.

    And because coronavirus is highly contagious -- killing more than half a million Americans and leaving many survivors with long-term complications -- you're much better off getting the vaccine.
     
    #14     May 13, 2021
  5. jem

    jem

    The commies and covid fascists loved Canada... lets see if they claim they know the long term effects of mRNA vaccines...


    By the way... if you pretend you know the long term risks and shame people for asking questions..

    You are a fucking nazi... asshole.

    Because this is the 100 percent truth...
    Confidence is not knowledge so you can't know... and this is the truth.



    https://immunizebc.ca/ask-us/questi...-caused-mrna-covid-19-vaccines-how-do-we-know

    Question:
    Are there long-term side effects caused by mRNA COVID-19 vaccines? How do we know?



    Answer:
    While it’s difficult to definitively say whether or not there are long-term side-effects, the medical and scientific community is confident in the long-term safety of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.

    According to the USA Centers for Disease Control, “Researchers have been studying and working with mRNA vaccines for decades. mRNA vaccines have been studied before for flu, Zika, rabies, and cytomegalovirus (CMV). As soon as the necessary information about the virus that causes COVID-19 was available, scientists began designing the mRNA instructions for cells to build the unique spike protein into an mRNA vaccine." In addition, cancer research has used mRNA to trigger the immune system to target specific cancer cells. Decades of studying mRNA have shown no long-term side-effects.

    According to the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia , the vaccine is not expected to have long-term negative effects for a few reasons:

    • First, most negative effects occur within 6 weeks of receiving a vaccine, which is why the FDA asked the companies to provide 8 weeks of safety data after the last dose.
    • Second, the mRNA in the vaccine breaks down pretty quickly because our cells need a way to stop mRNA from making too many proteins or too much protein.
    • But, even if for some reason our cells did not break down the vaccine mRNA, the mRNA stops making the protein within about a week, regardless of the body’s immune response to the protein.
    In addition, the medical and scientific community is confident in the vaccine’s long-term safety, because of the track record of Canada's vaccine approval and B.C.'s safety monitoring system. Overall, this means that the end data and safety tests are exactly the same as other vaccines that have been approved in Canada. The safety monitoring system in Canada happens both passively and actively.

    • Passive safety monitoring happens when anyone with a significant reaction to any vaccine reports it to their healthcare provider which is then reported to the BCCDC, Health Canada and all the way up to the World Health Organization. This information is shared globally in a timely way to flag for other countries any emerging and urgent concerns.
    • An example of active safety monitoring is the nurses across Canada who are actively reviewing patients’ charts as part of the IMPACT (Immunization Monitoring Program ACTive). This is a pediatric hospital-based national active surveillance network for adverse events in children following immunization, vaccine failures and selected infectious diseases that are, or will be, vaccine-preventable.
    Canada’s system has proven time and again that the data necessary to get through the approval process is sufficient to prove safety, even for the long-term.
     
    #15     May 13, 2021
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    So all this says is "the medical and scientific community is confident in the long-term safety of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines."
     
    #16     May 13, 2021
  7. AR15

    AR15

    Confident doesn't mean you're right

    or that you know anything
     
    #17     May 13, 2021
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  8. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    They did not suspend individual freedoms. They did not lock down the USA. They did not use Polio as an excuse to reduce our liberties. They did not start sending free money to every citizen of the country.

    They did what was necessary medically. Perfect example, thanks.
     
    #18     May 13, 2021
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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You better go read up on all the Polio lockdowns and restrictions across the U.S. in the late 1940s and early 1950s.
     
    #19     May 13, 2021
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  10. jem

    jem

    You already tried that bullshit. We looked at your links.

    They were local, not widespread and dealt mostly with businesses like movie theaters and community pools.


     
    #20     May 13, 2021