A Newbie Trading Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by ojo, Oct 20, 2002.

  1. ojo


    Hello, AAAintheBeltway

    Its good to know someone is actually reading my journal. :)

    Now I realize that real trading is 20000000000 times scarier than paper-trading. When I was paper-trading I could enter any setup that looked good. However, in real trading, I froze up....

    There is a problem entering trade right now.

    I keep getting a message followed....

    "Order rejected= Your order is not accepted
    In order to obtain the desired position your Equity with margin
    Value [0 USD] from the preivous day's close of business must exceed the initial Margin [2500 USD]"

    is this because my balance from the yesterday's close was 0?

    thank you

    #11     Oct 22, 2002
  2. nkhoi

    nkhoi Moderator

    I think the reason is that your account is cash account,
    in cash account when you buy something and then sell it, the broker has 3 days to make the selling amount available to you again. What you want is margin account , in margin account the broker will let you borrow up to the amount you have in cash. it is not easy to understand but think of it this way, the broker want you to open margin account so that they can lent you money, if you don't want their money they will make you wait for your money :D
    #12     Oct 22, 2002
  3. ojo


    Thanks nkhoi

    I just talked (via chat from their website) to IB representitive and the person said that I need to wait another day to trade more often....

    He/she said that my account status is sufficient to be qualified pattern day trader status(?) which I really didnt understand but then he/she explained very well. So far I am very satisfied with my broker :>
    #13     Oct 22, 2002
  4. nkhoi

    nkhoi Moderator

    #14     Oct 22, 2002
  5. ojo


    What I really dont understand in this website is that

    for example if a person have 50,000 USD in his margin account, will he be able to trade when the cost of all trades exceed 50k(200k?since its 25% of total cost during that day?)?

    (condition : this person above exits the previous position everytime before he makes another.)

    thank you

    #15     Oct 22, 2002
  6. ojo



    Today I made some trades. Mostly, I tried to scalp since I had missed entering a good setup because I had headiche ajd couldnit stand watching the monitors. So I took medichine and rested about 4 hours.

    The first an hour from 13:30 to 14:30 after I woke up, I was trying to catch up with the market reviewing the action earlier...but when I realized there was huge oppotunity, I'd already missed it. So, I decided to practice scalping. *Now I think it was a bad idea. I shouldnt have changed my strategy*

    I put my execution records below
    I wanted to post my screenshot but right now I only know how to make the shot in the form of .bmp
    so i just type it for now....

    SLD 500 INTC 16.185 USD ISLAND 20021024 04:17:19
    BOT 500 INTC 15.92 USD BTRADE 20021024 04:30:14

    BOT 500 INTC 15.84 USD ARCA 20021024 04:32:58
    SLD 500 INTC 16.03 USD TMBR 20021024 04:39:49

    SLD 500 INTC 16.08 USD INSTINET 20021024 04:41:28
    BOT 500 INTC 16.15 USD TMBR 20021024 04:43:07

    SLD 500 INTC 16.12 USD TMBR 20021024 04:44:22
    BOT 500 INTC 16.08 USD TMBR 20021024 04:50:46

    BOT 500 INTC 16.06 USD TMBR 20021024 04:51:33
    SLD 500 INTC 16.09 USD ISLAND 20021024 04:52:44

    BOT 500 INTC 16.10 USD ISLAND 20021024 04:53:49
    SLD 500 INTC 16.15 USD ISLAND 20021024 04:56:25

    ****the date&time is set at Japanese Standard Time and I dont know how to fix it yet :<*****

    the 2nd trades from the last trade, I could exit pretty well even though the price went against me. (+0.03)

    there was a trade I really failed. and I took a painful -0.07 loss.

    thank you for viewing

    #16     Oct 23, 2002
  7. Ojo -

    Im also reading your journal - I'll try to help if you have any questions.

    What timeframe do you work off of, the 1-minute bar? Have you tried the 5-minute? It's a little slower, and less noisy. This way you can let your winners run a bit longer.

    Just a suggestion.
    #17     Oct 23, 2002
  8. ojo


    Today I made 0.5 per a share out of 6 trades. However, I think it is not efficient enough to make money. since my trading size is 500shares.

    Even though I made $250 on these trades I end up paying about $75 in commission.

    But actually I am very happy that I made some money. :>

    In japan there is a term saying that "you must be more careful when you are winning." (the direct translation is "tighten your helm, after you won" or something like that)

    Now I had 2 winning days....and I am going to tell myself these words before I sleep.

    thank you

    #18     Oct 23, 2002
  9. Ojo -

    In America we also have a saying: " You can never go broke taking small profits." :D

    As you get more experienced you can give the winners a little more leash; just always cut those losers fast!
    #19     Oct 23, 2002
  10. ojo


    Thank you for reading my journal :>

    Yes I use 3 minutes chart and 60 minutes chart
    I used to use 1 min chart but it was too busy and noisy

    and yes that is the problem I have *I cant let my winners run*
    I think I am going to review my charts past 5 or 10 days and try to see if 5 mins chart is better

    Thank you for the advice...:>


    #20     Oct 23, 2002