Even worst case scenario there will be no "crash and burn" because, as tea party leaders are pointing out, the government shutdown is no big deal, it's really just a "slimdown". And not raising the debt ceiling is no big deal, Treasury will just move money around.
I don't really care if the fricking public sector is running 100% or it's current 83% or whatever it is. The expense is certainly at the 100% level [and rising] so wherever 'ya go, well there 'ya are, no?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from Ricter: Votes are there to break shutdown, but not the will Posted by CNN's Dan Merica Updated 10/9/2013 at 8:00 a.m. "Washington (CNN) â There appeared to be enough votes in the House on Wednesday to approve legislation to reopen the federal government, according to an ongoing CNN survey of House members. "All 200 Democrats and 19 Republicans support passing a continuing resolution with no additional legislative strings attached that would reopen the federal government, which has been partially closed for a week over a bitter policy dispute between Republicans and Democrats on health care. With three vacancies in 435 member House, 217 votes are currently the minimum needed for the measure to win approval in the House. "CNN's vote count appears to bear out what President Barack Obama said on Monday." More>> ---------------------------- This is a clever ploy by Obama and his media allies but is totally irrelevant. Boehner controls when and if there is a vote. Boehner is Speaker because republicans control the House, just liek Reid is Leader because dems control the Senate. Neithr would keep his post for long if he started rigging votes to allow the other party to prevail on hot button issues. What the media should be examining is why Obama is so afraid to negotiate. All the republicans are asking for is the same thing Obama illegally granted to numerous groups, waivers or delays in Obamacare. Why is he so hellbent on taking us off a cliff, just to score a political victory.
They close everything off for vets and normal people and let illegals in while it's closed to everyone else. They send Susan Rice out to lie about Benghazi and then after she's caught they give her a promotion. Serpenthead calls this 'in your face' politics. There was a reason they bought up a billion bullets for the Dept of Homeland Crackdown. So they can stick it 'in your face' without fear or reprisal.
wow... now that is going to threaten the hell out of the dems for 2014. they need to end obamacare now... or be slaughtered at the polls. this is the time for their exit plan.
I sense the jem algo is in operation again... Government Shutdown Blamed On Republicans: Poll By CALVIN WOODWARD and JENNIFER AGIESTA 10/09/13 03:36 AM ET EDT AP "WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) â Americans are holding Republicans primarily responsible for the partial government shutdown as public esteem sinks for all players in the impasse, President Barack Obama among them, according to a new poll. It's a struggle with no heroes. "The Associated Press-GfK survey, out Wednesday, affirms expectations by many in Washington â Republicans among them â that the GOP may end up taking the biggest hit in public opinion from the fiscal paralysis, just as that party did when much of the government closed 17 years ago. But the situation is fluid nine days into the shutdown and there's plenty of disdain to go around. "Overall, 62 percent mainly blamed Republicans for the shutdown. About half said Obama or the Democrats in Congress bear much responsibility." More>>
Are there other vote count combinations ? If Obama agree to delay Obamacare I think the house could get 325 votes to support the CR.
The algo now uses the 2012 election as the template... being forced to use the assumption the exit polls are reasonably accurate. The only poll I saw which gave its sample size seemed to oversample independents... which made sense on this issue so if the algo had feelings it would have been pleased by that poll. here cnn addresses independents... (its all tied up within the margin for error) http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/07/cnn-shutdown-poll-plenty-of-blame-to-go-around/ The CNN poll results are similar to those from a new Pew Research Center poll also released Monday and surveys from Gallup and CBS News/New York Times surveys conducted last week, which indicate slightly more people blaming - or angry at - Republicans than Democrats or the president for the shutdown. Not surprisingly, huge majorities of Democrats are angry at the Republicans, and huge majorities of Republicans are angry at Obama and Democrats. Independents are equally angry at all sides, with 59% of Independents very or somewhat angry at the Democrats, six in 10 angry at the GOP, and 58% angry at Obama.