A must read WSJ article

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by nitro, Jan 15, 2008.

  1. honestly, i believe it just depends on the person not necessarily the background.
     
    #31     Jan 16, 2008


  2. Biggest bubble around: NYC real estate.
     
    #32     Jan 16, 2008
  3. Nah, still a lot of demand at all price levels. I know a legion of young 20-30 somethings that are priced out and waiting to get in, all hoping for a price drop. Add in all the foreign demand and that explains why prices were still up in '07 (by 1-2%).
     
    #33     Jan 17, 2008
  4. I don't know why they make such a big deal about this I mean its fucking obvious this housing bubble was gonna pop big and take banks with them. When you see unemployed people getting loans for McMansions bet against the financials I made a huge killing 2007 with buying a SKF and selling. no rocket science, just common sense people.
     
    #34     Jan 17, 2008
  5. Let's see whether some hedge fund genius out there is betting on the oil bubble going burst. When oil was at $80/barrel, some said the price was too high. I guess some hedgie hot head jumped on the short side. If an unconcerned friend calls this hot head and asks him if he is going to cut his losses, what will the hot-headed hedge fund manager say? He will say: "I cannot sleep, I cannot eat, I am in the house of pain." Remember the hedge fund betting on the wrong side of natural gas, Amaranth (what a stupid name for a hedge fund).
     
    #35     Jan 17, 2008
  6. andread

    andread

    Interesting answer. I think you are the first one who says something against it. It's weird how opinions change when someone is making money.
     
    #36     Jan 18, 2008
  7. John47

    John47

    IMO....the guy has some great attributes of a trader...aggressive...willing to make a huge bet when he believes the risk/reward is right (however he figured that out...stating in the article the trade had "huge upside and no downside")..thats probably the most important.


    However whether he's truly an amazing trader we'll never know...because you only would have been able to see that if the thing went totally in his face. If he could have realized his mistimed it quickly enough to not blow out, then I'd say the guys phenomenal. If he didn't then he's just lucky.

    But regardless he had a lot of luck. Any one huge windfall will involve an element of luck. Conversely, many small consistent victories over time come from skill.
     
    #37     Jan 19, 2008
  8. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Also consider that he was in the position to take advantage of the situation. You and I might have a similar idea, but what are our chances of rising 4-500 millions to fund the strategy???
    His whinning about the friendship is bullshit because:

    1. Friend didn't sign a non-disclosure agreement.
    2. He didn't make less money because the friend copied him.
    3. He never thought the friend could actually copy (being able to trade it) the idea.

    If he was worried about being copied, he should have just kept it to himself....
     
    #38     Jan 19, 2008
  9. John47

    John47

    Well I mean the guy is wildly successful besides this trade, obviously. He made millions before. So he's in that league...beyond myself and probably all (or nearly all) of the posters on this board.

    The question of whether he's in the league of Lampert, Sorros, PTJ, etc is what I was addressing. I'm thinking not. I'm guessing he eared the millions through work and skill, which gave he the opportunity to take a shot at making billions....

    So he made his millions through skill and work...and luck turned that into billions.
     
    #39     Jan 19, 2008