A Message to the People of the West

steve46 · Jul 14, 2006

I think he is trying to elaborate on the central theme "Fuck You" using Iambic Pentameter.

In the next line, he re-iterates the main theme with the the seven (7) syllable counterpoint

"You filthy fucking scum"

Unfortunately he does not possess the skills of some of our greatest American Poets, and so the next line is rather clumsy. I would suggest something on the order of this;

"You camel-humping bitches, can chew upon my scrotum"

Which has a much better flow... and rhymes better with "scum"

and then he goes on to state;

"You Goddamn filthy rag-headed mother fucker...Which of course is rather trite and has no rhythm. Here I would suggest something a little more punchy and terse as in;

"You mujahadeen bastards, aint got no fuckin class"

and finish with

"Here comes the U.S rockets, to vaporize your ass."

So in summary, what the author needs is to review the rules of Iambic Pentameter and to practice a little more, perhaps using different verbs and pronouns. Not a bad first effort.

Here is the poem with my suggested revisions;

We will simply title it "FUCK YOU"

"Fuck you, you mother fucker (my add)
You filthy fucking scum...
You camel-humping bitches, can suck upon my scrotum"

"You mujahadeen bastards
Ain't got no fucking class
Here comes the U.S. rockets to vaporize your ass."

Thank you
Thank you.

Steve

steve46 · Jul 14, 2006

You know I have to say, that verse is even better than my
earlier work from the thread where Haile Salassie talkes about Jesus (Jesse) Christ.

Here is the link to my short verse titled "Where's Mah Bitches?"

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...&perpage=6&highlight=mah bitches&pagenumber=3

gunslinger · Jul 14, 2006

Quote from mojahd2006:

In the name of Allah, the Merciful, the Bestower of Mercy

To the coalition of crusading nations particularly and to the people of the West in general:

Peace be upon those who follow the guidance.

I am writing this letter to you as the world is full of great events and enormous disasters. I want to let you know our vision concerning this and also our vision concerning you so that you can determine your position accordingly. I want to let you know what we feel and how we think, what we want and what we aim for. I will put it in points to make it easy to understand:

Instead of correcting the heinous mistake of invading Iraq, getting out as you got in, and leaving the Iraqi people to manage their own affairs, your governments and armies have committed a great mistake by killing our sheikh, Abo-Mosaab al-Zarqawi â may Allah have mercy on his soul - this mistake we consider a war crime itself. Killing our leaders and great men will not weaken our forces and will not stop us until we achieve victory and kick you out of all the Muslim lands, humiliated and dishonored.

Ask your sons and your soldiers in the armies of the coalition of crusaders because they are the best to answer this question: what happens when one of our leaders is killed in the battlefield? I'm sure it would be difficult for you to ask them because of the long distance between you, so I will volunteer the answer:

The fall of any of our leaders means that a battalion takes his place and a battle named after him is launched. Your soldiers know the taste of such a battle because it has no taste except the taste of death. They also know the consequences of a battle against angry Muslim men in defense of their religion when taking revenge for the slaying of their leaders.

How do you think the revenge will be this time when we have lost our leader, Sheikh Abo Mosaab al-Zarqawi? Ask your soldiers how they feel. Ask them about the horror and fear they live in now as they await the wrath of the lions. You will see, but they won't be able to see it. They won't see it coming, because by that time the bombs and traps will be tearing them to pieces and destroying their morale.

Let me tell you, you were foolish when you agreed to follow Bush, Blair, and everyone who allied themselves with them, and it was even more foolish to rejoice at the death of Sheikh al-Zarqawi because you have made the whole of the Islamic nation angry with you now for killing one of its greatest men.
This anger will erupt like a volcano, burning each and every one of you. How many faithful sons of the Muslim nation are waiting anxiously to avenge the death of Sheikh Abo-Mosaab al-Zarqawi? You must keep this question in mind and think seriously about how to escape the dilemma your leaders have put you in. The beating, the killing, and the bombing will devestate both you and your relatives. But it will not harm Bush or Blair, because they leave you to face death alone.
Bush and Blair claim that security conditions have been made stricter to protect you from terrorists, but who can prevent someone seeking death from doing what he wants? Bush and Blair will remain safe because it is you who will pay the price. You must do your best to fix this situation. You must put things in their proper place so as not to pay the price twice; once by loosing your sons in a battle waged for the sake of war traders and oil companies, and a second time when you a forced to live in fear, and be killed when the wrath of Allah pours down on you at the hands of the lions of Tawhid and Jihad.

I suggest some practical solutions for you to clarify the situation, so that you won't find any excuse and so that each one of you will be responsible for the consequences of his decisions.

Firstly:
I sincerely invite you to believe in Islam, abandon the trinity and worship of the cross, and follow the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and all his family and companions. This will ensure your safety and guarantee security for you in your lands as the Muslims are all brothers in faith. You can achieve this by reading more books that talk about Islam and explain it, or by asking the Muslims who live nearby.

Secondly:

Pressure your governments to accept the truce offered by Shaykh Osama in order to give us the chance to rebuild our countries which you have destroyed. Although it is the leaders of the USA and Britain who have refused this truce, it is you who will pay the price as we mentioned before. It is not acceptable that your soldiers kill our fathers and sons and violate our honor, while you live in safety. Therefore, the best thing would be to accept the truce and force your governments to accept it.

Thirdly:

If you refuse the two previous solutions, we say - seeking to be excused before Allah and so that you cannot claim that you did not receive the warning - we say here what our Shaykh Osama - may Allah protect him - has said, "The days will not pass until we take revenge as on the 11th of September or worse". We add to this, saying, as in Madrid and London, that the answer is what you will witness, not what you will hear of. So prepare the shrouds, dig your tombs, and cry for your souls which will end up in the Hellfire -Allah willing- at the hands of the lions of Tawhid and Jihad.

Finally:

You should know that your soldiers do not kill combatants; they kill innocent civilians. Your governments and their organizations that pretend to be humanitarian blockade the poor people and intend to weaken the Islamic nation with war. Our case is therefore just and devoid of oppression; as long as the killing of civilians goes on, we will continue to kill you. As long as your governments intervene in our personal affairs and try to tamper with our Islam, we will not stop intervening in your affairs and we will not stop killing you. The West has proved that it knows only the language of bullets and bombs â that is what it takes to make you understand who we are and what we want.
So wait for the battle taking revenge for the martyr of the Muslim nation, Sheikh Abo-Mosaab, and know that I have been honest in the words I have said to you. I hope these words will be understood by your men of wisdom.

Written by:
The Servant of Jihad and the Mujahideen
Saqr al-Jihad Alefriqi (The African Falcon of the Jihad)
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Wael?

stu · Jul 14, 2006

Quote from Ivanovich:

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, because to me, it is clear that the conflict between Sunni and Shiite is without borders and thus not based on occupancy. The base of the conflict is, as you say, about who decides law and religion - but not for the land. For Islam.

In Northern Ireland, it is Christian fighting Christian in the name of politics and occupation - again, as you say. That is not the problem in secular Islam.

Lastly, to stay on the topic of the thread, the original point I made was that Islam is not a brotherhood where simply changing to it ensures acceptance into it's center.
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I take your point but I think the discrepancy between our respective understandings on the matter might be twofold.

First, I think you are presenting a too subtle analysis of a difference between killing for occupancy and killing for religious beliefs.
Whilst I also think we may agree that same religions have been fighting each other in the form of both sectarian Christians and sectarian Moslems for centuries, My opinion is - unlike yours it appears - that they both fight over wanting to establish a dominant religion along with the power to restrict occupancy through their own religious "brotherhood".
The minority Sunni Arab v Kurds is an example of centuries old Islamic war and occupancy against the Kurds own declared nation state. For hundreds of years Islam has been killing its own, just as Christians have been killing their own, Northern Ireland being the most recent example. Sunni and Shiite will still expel each other from land and Islam given half a chance.

Second, I don't consider the word secular can be used as an adjective for Islam in the way you have or indeed in any way for that matter. But I did find your views interesting.

2cents · Jul 14, 2006

very thoughtful... shame its gonna be buried in this thread in a way... that'd be worth starting a separate thread imo

inCom · Jul 14, 2006

Quote from TGregg:

It's IP traces to Cairo, FWIW.
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Quote from Rearden Metal:

See... told you so.

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Ok. Then he can come back and post more, if he wants to.

claywilk · Jul 14, 2006

It is a damn shame that we are going to lose even a single child of god repulsing these demons of hell. But it is waaaay past time. I have been a critic of the war in Iraq mainly because I saw Iraq as the lesser of evils. Now the real evil bastards are coming out in all directions. I think they think we are mired down in Iraq and it is their time to move. WE HAVE TO GET RID OF IRAN NOW! We owe this to our posterity just as much as our Fathers had to fight Hitler and stand up to the Communists for us. The Iranian Shiites are and always have been the real enemy. I know a bunch of exiled Persians that would love to return to Iran and try to make it a decent place again. We need to give Iraq to the French and Germans, Rendevous with Israel in Syria, and head for Tehran. Before it is too late. God has made them make these dumb ass mistakes before they have nukes for a damn good reason. It is his will that we do this now before it is too late.

acronym · Jul 14, 2006

Quote from Rearden Metal:

No- The mindset & wording seems incredibly authentic.

The thread opening message was either written by a real Islamist, or someone who has spent years studying their culture & mindset.
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Actually, i'll disagree their, RE; al zarquawi, "may god have mercy on his soul " dont pass muster at all.

They would praise the mofo as the new prophet, or similiar, islam calls for no bestowing of forgiveness by anyone, including god, for the actions of a "martyr".
JMO.