A message to some day traders.

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Amahrix, Sep 20, 2019.

  1. padutrader

    padutrader

    what is the meaning of random since you used that word
     
    #281     Sep 22, 2019
  2. Amahrix

    Amahrix

    I will tell you;

    ”While in theory randomness is an intrinsic property, in practice, randomness is incomplete information.“ - Nassim Taleb
     
    #282     Sep 22, 2019
  3. Amahrix

    Amahrix

    Only because signal(information) emerged in the data(China news) and signal makes prediction easier, still faulty because you never really know; depends on the importance of the signal.

    Check my post below.
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2019
    #283     Sep 22, 2019
  4. Amahrix

    Amahrix

    Most trading days of the year are uneventful, put simply, they're randomly constructed.

    A few trading days of the year, lets say 14 days out of 252 trading days, carry the signal to move the market and produce returns, in our example below, positive returns.

    Hypothetically, lets say at year 2020 end of year market return is 20%. In this hypothetical, the 20% return will be a result of (2) weeks worth of trading days, so 14 days, out of 252 trading days of the year.

    Contrary to popular belief, market returns are not Gaussian but follow more of a Cauchy/Levy distribution.

    Keeping this in mind, it highlights that most trading days of the year, the chart, is constructed of randomness. You don't know all the forces behind the scenes, you have incomplete information on what is going on. And we know empirically that data does not allow you to use it to predict when prediction matters, such as the tails.

    This means that data is always going to noisy, in fact, history is noisy. They're especially noisy if you're just looking at a normal trading day, and 1 normal trading day alone.

    For a day trading charlatan to tell me that he can predict next 30 minutes, with prior 30 minutes...or something else similar to this, I want to slap this arrogant bullsh*tter fool across the face.

    Not saying he won't make money or will make money, but if that is the strategy, I can confidently say, it is a result of luck.
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2019
    #284     Sep 22, 2019
  5. This is brilliant. Thank You I could not have posted better. Backtesting is a deadend...you cannot put the future into a can...then it would not be the unknown.

    ES

     
    #285     Sep 22, 2019
  6. I think you have misunderstood...Trend is valid...

     
    #286     Sep 22, 2019
  7. no one is giving up here...

     
    #287     Sep 22, 2019
  8. You just set minimums and maximums on the past with no regard to reality and what is going on at the time....stress testing is valid...but backtesting is old news...

     
    #288     Sep 22, 2019
  9. Why make this personal?...This thread is valid. Look deeper.

    ES

     
    #289     Sep 22, 2019
  10. Amahrix,
    Just deal with it satirically ...they do not understand!

    ES

     
    #290     Sep 22, 2019
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