A Little Something to Re-educate Fed Conspiracy Theorists --

Discussion in 'Politics' started by piezoe, May 10, 2021.

  1. piezoe

    piezoe

    Jem. This is especially for you, though I have a hunch Dice are Cast will be equally educated by it...

    A young man, named Nathan Tankus, who has made a detailed study of Fed -- Treasury operations contributed the below remarks which I have excerpted from a longer piece. To see the entire post on his Substack blog go to Nathantankus.substack.com, 'archive,' and scan for "The Federal Government Always Money-Finances Its Spending: A Restatement [N.B. -- Tankus is leaving Substack and moving to Ghost. Should you want to follow him.]

    "...
    Conspiracy theorists often think that the Federal Reserve System is a private entity, and thus control of our monetary system is completely in private hands because of details surrounding the structure of Regional Federal Reserve Banks. In fairness to them, while this claim is wrong, it's understandable why they think so. Chartered “private” banks are formally authorized by law to act in the interests of shareholders and deliver payouts which are dependent on their own profits. These Chartered banks, in turn, must purchase shares in their local Regional Federal Reserve Bank in order to become a Federal Reserve “member bank” and have access to the Federal Reserve. I can already hear the voices of the conspiracy theorists: “see!! The Bankers OWN SHARES IN THE FEDERAL RESERVE, ITS A PRIVATE ENTITY!!”​

    This, however, is less than it appears. For while these contracts are called “shares”, they don’t entitle Federal Reserve member banks to anything like what shareholders in big banks like Citibank (or any other company in the Fortune 500) are entitled to. Here, it's worth quoting a Federal court case from last year called Wells Fargo v. United States:

    Congress has transferred functional ownership and control of the FRBs [Federal Reserve Banks]
    to the Treasury and to the [Federal Reserve] Board [...] Further, we are not moved, as the district court was, by the fact that private banks serve as the FRBs’ nominal shareholders [...] Today, the United States, not the nominal shareholders, are the economic owners of the FRBs. Among other things, Congress has provided that the net earnings of the FRBs be “recorded as revenue by the Department of the Treasury,” FRB Amici at 17, and the FRBs are required to remit all their excess earnings to the United States Treasury [...] Thus, the “capital” contributions made by member banks function as debt interests owned by the member banks, not equity interest [...] money created for the Term Auction Facility or the Discount Window is as much a product of the “public fisc” as money that is distributed by the Treasury Department

    To summarize, the “shares” chartered banks own of Regional Federal Reserve Banks are really debt contracts, net profits from the Federal Reserve System are delivered to the U.S. Treasury and the Federal Reserve Board jointly owns and controls the Regional Federal Reserve Banks along with the U.S. Treasury. As a result, the “money” (settlement balances in checking accounts created for the benefit of chartered banks and governments) the Federal Reserve System creates is a product of the Federal Government even though they are “unappropriated dollars”, similar to the Mint. Government owned corporations, such as the Post Office, are regularly consolidated with the rest of the Federal Government for analytical purposes. Similarly, its appropriate to consolidate the entirety of the Federal Reserve System with the rest of the Federal Government.
    ..."​

    Jem, there is absolutely no need to thank me for helping you clear up this long harbored misunderstanding of yours. It's been my pleasure.
     
  2. jem

    jem

    How many times have I explained to you the profits are a red herring. Private corps do not have to be profitable.


    ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY CREATE TRLLIONS OF DOLLARS WITH A KEYSTOKE AND DISTRIBUTE IT AS THEY WISH...WITH ZERO ABILITY FOR CONGRESS TO PREVENT IT..

    THE ONLY CONTROL OVER THE CREATION OF These extra TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS PER YEAR CONGRESS HAS IS TO SOMEDAY PULL THE CHARTER...BUT THE TRILLIONS ARE ALREADY DISTRIBUTED.
     
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    WHEREZ MA TRILLYUNS!?
     
  4. jem

    jem

    You have to be connected to the spigot... Typically via a Wall Street bank.

     
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Go to Zimbabwe
     
  6. piezoe

    piezoe

    And how many times have I explained to you that the Fed. including the Regional Fed Banks. are not privately owned for private profit operations? Your grasping at straws to avoid admitting your own fallibility.
     
  7. jem

    jem

    Multliple times..

    And each time ... I tell you, your statement is another low understanding, red herring.

    a. I have never claimed they are for profit...
    Private Corporations do not have to be run for profit.


    B. Trillions in Fed Reserve Notes / dollar Creation... at your will.. to do with as you see fit... for the the remittance of a few billion in profit...

    I think we could all do well with that.


    When you get to create trillions with a keystroke and put it in your members accounts..
    The members don't care if you remit a few billion or even a trillion in "profits" to the US Govt.


    The point of the Franchise is the license to Create trillions of dollars at will.


     
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  8. piezoe

    piezoe

    It's pretty damn difficult to run them for anything else!
     
  9. piezoe

    piezoe

    Who are these member yo re referring to ???
     
  10. jem

    jem

    Banks...cmon I haven given you this info before.
     
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