A hot war between France and UK is imminent

Discussion in 'Politics' started by thecoder, Oct 29, 2021.

  1. vanzandt

    vanzandt

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    #11     Nov 1, 2021
  2. A thousand years of intermittent war never really resolved anything, but that shouldn’t stop us trying it again hurrah!
     
    #12     Nov 1, 2021
  3. A perfect example of the dumbass left taking the wrecking ball to something before they have a solid replacement plan. Let's go full windmills and we'll just buy power from our great friends across the channel. Idiots. Morons in Cali doing the same thing with Arizona. Won't work there either. Progressives will have us progressing all the way to the 7th century.
     
    #13     Nov 1, 2021
  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    The transition should have started back in the mid 80s, twenty years before peak oil. Twenty years is what energy analysts suggested for getting off fossil fuels. Reagan shot that down for the sake of votes, killing the transition strategies that had emerged in the 70s, by vastly expanding exploration, drilling, and rolling back regulations. That only heightened our dependence on fossil fuels, and has pushed us to the brink now.
     
    #14     Nov 1, 2021
  5. We should have went full nuclear power and we'd be free from any energy crisis by now, but no, we decided to adopt an energy policy based upon a 70's Jane Fonda movie and we still haven't learned. Windmills aren't part of any serious discussion and solar, while a good supplement, is not without it's own problems. We either go nuke power or the lights go out. It really is that straightforward.
     
    #15     Nov 1, 2021
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    Nuclear is a no go, it has never been profitable and requires government subsidies to this day. Not to mention the problem of waste. Germany went for it, now they've turned it off for those very reasons.

    You're right about the lights out, it's inevitable. But we will probably start with rationing.
     
    #16     Nov 1, 2021
  7. We'll see. When the lights go out, the cold gets uncomfortable, the heat gets unbearable, the food spoils and your brand new EV car won't start people will beg for whatever brings the lights back on, and they'll want it quickly.
     
    #17     Nov 1, 2021
  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    Unfortunately, wanting a thing really, really badly does not mean one is going to get it. The severity of the crisis is irrelevant in that regard. Whatever "brings the lights back on" will become too expensive for those people begging for it, to afford it. Fossil fuels are not going to be created by our urgency. New nuke plants will not and cannot be built in that environment. We waited too long to start, allowed ourselves to move much farther out on the branch we're sitting and sawing on. We're fucked.

    The good news is, don't expect Mad Max like collapse. It will go in stages over a quite a fair bit of time. Think China's rolling blackouts, for example.
     
    #18     Nov 1, 2021
  9. America isn't China, we have zero disciple. Look at what happened during the first week or so of Covid. Panic buying. Now what happens in an actual crisis where the shelves really do go empty? I can't even imagine what would happen in a good old fashion 1973 era gasoline shortage. The rest of the world may ease into it, America...we're going full retard. Bank on it.
     
    #19     Nov 1, 2021
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  10. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    60 days with no electricity, 33% of the U.S. population will be gone. At least.
     
    #20     Nov 1, 2021
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