A glimpse of what today's conservative really is

Discussion in 'Politics' started by dbphoenix, Sep 7, 2014.

  1. DHOHHI

    DHOHHI


    With idiots like Odumbo & Company maybe they'll next say it's a humanitarian crisis in Syria and welcome any/all from there. Or any other number of countries with violence, war, civil unrest ...

    To think of how earlier immigrants came legally through Ellis Island, did things the right way and worked hard to make a good life versus the many illegals who have the audacity to protest and bitch and moan and benefit from government programs as they do, with some of those benefits obtained illegally, makes me sick.
     
    #71     Sep 11, 2014
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

     
    #72     Sep 11, 2014
  3. Lucrum

    Lucrum

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    #73     Sep 11, 2014
  4. America would be soooooo much the better if that were still the case today.

    AMERICA DOESN'T NEED PARASITES. NOBODY/NOTHING BENEFITS FROM PARASITES... THEY ARE TO BE DRIVEN OFF/ERADICATED/KILLED... NOT "CULTIVATED FOR THEIR VOTE"! 99% of immigrants across our southern border are ILLEGAL... they're here for no other reason than to SUCK TIT FROM OUR SOCIAL SUPPORT SYSTEM. WE DON'T BENEFIT BY THEIR BEING HERE. WE DON'T WANT THEM. WE DON'T NEED THEM. THEY SHOULD BE TURNED BACK AT THE BORDER!

    PARASITES MAKE THEIR HOST SICK... OFTEN, KILL THEM. (Symbiosis is different... our border trespassers are not the least bit symbiotic.)

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    #74     Sep 11, 2014
  5. Lucrum

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    #75     Sep 11, 2014
  6. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Ted Cruz’s big mouth saves the day: Just as Democrats take a hit, along comes a hero

    One of the overlooked aspects of President Obama’s decision to delay taking executive action on deportations is the degree to which it helped out Republicans. The emerging conventional wisdom is that by punting on the issue, Obama did a favor to Democrats running in red states who were afraid that a renewed focus on immigration would anger conservatives and boost turnout for their Republican opponents. But, as anyone who’s been paying attention for the last nine years can tell you, immigration debates tend to be very thorny issues for Republicans as well.

    Before Obama made his announcement, Republican leaders in Congress were very concerned that the hard-right faction of the House GOP would mount a rebellion if the party didn’t use the upcoming debate over government funding to try and block Obama on immigration. “If Obama does move forward with an executive action,” Rep. Steve King told the Washington Post, “many House Republicans will be unwilling to extend funding for the government that is set to expire at the end of September.” The threat of a government shutdown before the midterms suddenly looked less far-fetched.

    But then Obama put off action until after the midterms, and Republican leaders unclenched a bit. They still have to worry about the unruly members of their own party acting like self-destructive fools, but at least immigration was off the table and they could focus on quickly and quietly funding the government.

    And then Ted Cruz entered the fray. The junior senator from Texas once again assumed his unofficial role as spoiler to House Speaker John Boehner and met with House conservatives to strategize ways to turn the short session of Congress into a painful political sideshow. And that meant, of course, a fight over immigration that Republican leaders had hoped to avoid.

    “I think we should use any and all means necessary to prevent the president from illegally granting amnesty,” Cruz said this week. “That certainly, I think, would be appropriate to include in the [continuing resolution], but I think we should use every – every – tool at our disposal.” Specifically, Cruz wanted the Senate to take up a bill the House GOP passed just before the August recess that would kill the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which shields younger undocumented immigrants from deportation. That bill only came up because Boehner needed to gain conservative supportfor a separate bill to deal with the crisis caused by thousands of undocumented immigrant children crossing our southern border. “The House of Representatives has stood up and led,” Cruz said. “Let senators go on record whether or not they support amnesty.”

    So, just as the Democrats were taking heat for Obama’s broken promise on immigration, Cruz started demanding that more immigrants be put under threat of deportation (in line with the House bill that passed only because Boehner needed to mollify the nativists) and that it would be reasonable to tie this demand to continued funding of the government.

    This is something of a Cruz specialty. Whenever the Democrats find themselves in a politically awkward position on immigration, Cruz can be counted on to swoop in and put the spotlight right back on himself and the GOP.

    When the controversy over the crush of immigrant minors at the border was at its height this summer, Democrats were paralyzed by internal divisions and arguing among themselves over how to address it. But then Cruz popped up and started demanding that legislation to address the border crisis include language to undo DACA, making himself a lightning rod for anti-immigrant sentiment. And now he’s back again, pulling the same trick at the exact moment that Democrats desperately need a foil on immigration.

    Ted Cruz live on Senate floor now to ask for unanimous consent for his bill to stop Obama's Amnesty (he doesn't rest, does he?)

    — Amanda Carpenter (@amandacarpenter) September 10, 2014

    The idea of tying language to end DACA to the continuing resolution raises the specter of a government shutdown – something Cruz insists he doesn’t want, even though he thinks the last one he caused was a great gift to his party.

    But by floating the idea, he gave Democrats an opening to once again hammer Cruz for playing chicken with the federal government. “They have every right to do whatever they want legislatively,” Harry Reid said on Tuesday. “If they want to be the lead team of shutting down the government, that’s what they’re going to have to do.” Sen. Dick Durbinlaid into Cruz on the Senate floor, noting that there are still young immigrants eligible for DACA protections who haven’t applied, and that Cruz is “glorying in the possibility of deporting these children.”

    Cruz, of course, is happy to be denounced – antagonizing the left on hot-button issues is basically all he does as a senator. But as we’ve seen so many times before, Cruz’s agenda and the Republican leadership’s agenda are not always in sync. And Cruz’s willingness to offer himself as a ready-made villain for the Democrats often serves to undermine his own party’s political agenda.

    Simon Maloy
     
    #76     Sep 11, 2014
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  7. jem

    jem

    morons with opinions formed by anti american beltway corruption money.

    remember these were the same idiots lecturing us that 70% of the country was in favor amnesty and the teaparty was going to cost the republican party.
    When in realty most hispanic voters were against amnesty and so is the vast majority of the republican base.

    Cruz was right on obamacare and he is correct now.
    A govt shutdown is probably favored by the majority of the people who will vote in december.

    It was also favored by the american people... Reid and Obama conspired to shut down obvious things like parks to act like the shutdown was really a problem.
     
    #77     Sep 11, 2014
  8. DHOHHI

    DHOHHI

    And speaking of deportations .... lowest number since 2007!

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama, who has postponed until after the Nov. 4 Election Day his plans that could shield millions of immigrants from deportation, is already on pace this year to deport the fewest number of immigrants since at least 2007.
     
    #78     Sep 11, 2014
  9. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Panicked Georgia Republicans look for an edge: suppressing black votes

    Georgia Republicans are anxious. The bright red state stays that way because African Americans and Latinos are less likely to vote than white people. Democrats are trying to change that this year – Michelle Nunn has a decent chance of picking up a Republican-held Senate seat, while Jason Carter threatens Gov. Nathan Deal — and the GOP is fighting back.

    State GOP leaders are ever more openly admitting that they’re threatened by black voter participation. And now the state’s top election official, caught on tape warning that turning out “minority voters” is the key to a Democratic victory, is accused of harassing a key voter registration project run by the pastor of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s Ebenezer Baptist Church and an African American state legislator.

    Earlier this week State Sen. Fran Millar got national attention when he railed against a decision by Atlanta’s DeKalb County to expand Sunday voting and open a new polling place near at a shopping mall near black churches. “How ironic! Michele [sic] Obama comes to town and Chicago politics comes to DeKalb,” Millar railed in response, calling the move “blatantly partisan.”

    Of course Sunday voting is a national phenomenon, available to citizens of all races – although it must be said that once black churches began to organize “Souls to the Polls” events after church, it suddenly became controversial on the right, and states like Wisconsin have limited it sharply. The spectacle of pro-Christian Republicans trying to keep other Christians from voting has always been vexing, and it’s hard to conclude it has to do with anything but race.

    Criticized for his reply, Millar didn’t back down, posting on Facebook: “I would prefer more educated voters than a greater increase in the number of voters.” Yes, that does imply he thinks black voters are less educated. He added: “If you don’t believe this is an effort to maximize Democratic voters, than you are not a realist. This is a partisan stunt and I hope it can be stopped.”

    But Democrats see a partisan stunt in a move by GOP Secretary of State Brian Kemp to subpoena the records of the New Georgia Project, the state’s largest voter registration effort, alleging the group has committed voter fraud. And by records, Kemp means every imaginable record – you can see the subpoena here. It could tie up the group indefinitely.

    New Georgia Project co-director Stacey Abrams, the House Minority Leader, says that out of 85,000 registrations, the group was aware of roughly 25 complaints about incomplete forms. “The complaints we were aware of, we’ve worked very closely with the secretary of state’s office to resolve,” Abrams told the Atlanta Journal Constitution. “In fact, the first time there was a complaint, I personally called [Kemp] and told him about our project, because I wanted to make sure we were working with the secretary of state’s office to get this work done, given how massive a project this would be.”

    “We’re just not going to put up with fraud,” Kemp told a local television station. “I mean, we have zero tolerance for that in Georgia, so we’ve opened an investigation and served some subpoenas.”​

    Better Georgia has come up with audio of a July speech by Kemp to GOP supporters, in which he raised the specter of the defunct community-organizing group ACORN and warned that Democrats were pinning their hopes on “minority voters:”

    Everybody remembers ACORN right? Well when ACORN was out registering people to vote, they were filling out applications, they were sending stuff in, you don’t know who these people are, where they’re from, the people that are registered, and the people that are filling those out.​

    Ironically, Kemp seems to be reassuring the group that voting restrictions passed in the wake of ACORN, including voter ID, prevent the sort of voter fraud he believes ACORN was promoting. And he closes his remarks with a warning:

    You know the Democrats are working hard, and all these stories about them, you know, registering all these minority voters that are out there and others that are sitting on the sidelines, if they can do that, they can win these elections in November. But we’ve got to do the exact same thing.
    There’s nothing wrong with Kemp noting the Democrats’ plans to register “minority voters,” of course. Those plans are public. But when he’s obstructing an African-American run voter registration project less than two months before the midterms, it’s hard not to wonder which hat he’s wearing: responsible election official, or desperate GOP partisan?

    “GOP candidates in Georgia know they cannot win if the electorate reflects the increasing diversity of our state, so Sec. Kemp is using the power of his office to restrict minority voting access,” Better Georgia’s Bryan Long charged in a statement. He’s asking for a Justice Department investigation. Stay tuned.

    Joan Walsh

     
    #79     Sep 11, 2014
  10. I meant they weren't violating our immigration laws.

    Some perspective from Pat Buchanan on the concept we are a nation of immigrants:

    In Federalist No. 2, John Jay wrote,
    “Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people — a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs … “

    He called Americans a “band of brethren, united to each other by the strongest ties.” The republic of the founders for whom Jay spoke did not give a fig for diversity. They cherished our unity, commonality, and sameness of ancestry, culture, faith and traditions.

    We were not a nation of immigrants in 1789.

    They came later. From 1845-1849, the Irish fleeing the famine. From 1890-1920, the Germans. Then the Italians, Poles, Jews and other Eastern Europeans. Then, immigration was suspended in 1924.

    From 1925 to 1965, the children and grandchildren of those immigrants were assimilated, Americanized. In strong public schools, they were taught our language, literature and history, and celebrated our holidays and heroes.

    We endured together through the Depression and sacrificed together in World War II and the Cold War.
    By 1960, we had become truly one nation and one people.

    America was not perfect. No country is. But no country ever rivaled what America had become. She was proud, united, free, the first nation on earth. And though the civil rights movement had just begun, nowhere did black peoples enjoy the freedom and prosperity of African-Americans.

    http://buchanan.org/blog/balkanization-beckons-6672
     
    #80     Sep 11, 2014