a blistering attack in DIE WELT against the timid reaction of Europe in the face of

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Optionpro007, Mar 7, 2007.

  1. Pat Buchanan has it right. Europe has lost the will to defend itself, and our reward for enormous sacrifices for them in the past is ingratitude and carping criticism. We need to pull all our troops from europe, stop propping them up and disband NATO before it causes us to bumble into a war with Russia. Europe, as an inferior weak state, must choose to pay tribute to either us or the muslims. If they pay up, we will protect them. If not, they can learn to live as slaves in their own countries.
     
    #11     Mar 8, 2007
  2. fhl

    fhl

    The justification for war was not at all flimsy, rather it was rock solid. Sadam's regime did not meet the conditions of surrender from the previous war. Even the UN acknowledged that. The flimsy part came when libs said in essence, "we don't care if he meets the previous conditions or not, we won't go to war". This is what goaded the Bush admin to come up with "more" justification about wmd. It gets a little old, however, to hear people like Joe Wilson say that Bush lied.
     
    #12     Mar 8, 2007
  3. The whole Joe Wilson/Valery Plame episode is a lesson in how false liberal factoids become accepted as legitimate. The factoid, repeated as endlessly by the media as the notion that mankind is causing global warming, is that Wilson courageously exposed Bush's lies about Iraq trying to acquire uranium in africa and, as retribution, the White House maliciously outed Plame, a covert CIA agent.

    The reality, which we know largely because of the alternative media, is that Wilson's "investigation" did nothing to undermine the Iraq/Africa claim, that in fact he admitted as much, that his wife had not been a covert operative for years, that her identity had previously been blown by the CIA and that the only reason Wilson was picked for the Africa trip was because of her recommendation. This last point became highly relevant when Wilson became involved in the Kerry campaign and started claiming that he had debunked the Iraq claim on a trip made at the request of Dick Cheney.

    I know this. If Wilson had exposed some Clinton lie, he would have had his entire life ruined, his wife would have been destroyed, every piece of dirty laundry in their entire lives would have been exposed and commented on endlessly and he probably would have been prosecuted by some partisan hack prosecutor on bogus charges. You could ask Linda Tripp.
     
    #13     Mar 8, 2007
  4. war on terror was not a mistake...just the biggest hoax of all time.

    and when insiders write articles like this one they only confirm the obvious.



    Pentagon's number two suggests terror war will end in Oct. 2008

    Michael Roston
    Raw Story
    Wednesday, February 28, 2007

    The Department of Defense's number two official appears to imply in a memo that the Global War on Terrorism will end just in time for the presidential election in November 2008. The contents of the document are outlined in a column in today's Washington Post.

    Al Kamen, who writes the Post's "In The Loop" column, cited a pair of memos written by Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordon England in today's paper. The first memo was written Dec. 6 and sent to top military and civilian officials. It identifies eight priorities for the coming fiscal year, and the first of them is to "Win the Global War on Terrorism."

    In a second memo from Feb. 15, England writes that "to ensure that warfighters and taxpayers receive maximum benefit from on-going initiatives, it would be highly desirable to complete current projects by the summer/fall of 2008."

    England then provides a quarterly grid with the same eight priorities from the December memo and "expected milestone conclusion dates" for each one.

    As Kamen points out, the first priority of winning the global terror war from the earlier memo is included on the grid, and "looks to be over around October 2008."

    The next presidential election will occur in November 2008, a month later.


     
    #14     Mar 8, 2007
  5. I think your rendition of Plame Affaire from the "alternative media(guffaw)," will be in need of serious revision if Wilson and Plame get their day in civil court.

    With Cheney, Rove, Armitage, Libby among others, on the stand and under oath I think we'll see much of the right-wing-kook-job spin go right out the window.


     
    #15     Mar 8, 2007
  6. fhl

    fhl

    I'd rather be on the side of "win this year" than "surrender this year".
     
    #16     Mar 8, 2007
  7. surrender what...pathological warmongering?

    when your president blows the borders wide open to facilitate and finance aliens coming into your country with zero scruples while crushing your rights and keeping 1/3 of americans under surveillance u really have no choice but declare the war on terror the fraud of the century. on the other hand, if like all et residents neocons u are here to spread propaganda then, well... go ahead and spew.
     
    #17     Mar 8, 2007
  8. The fact that otherwise smart people use the phrase "win the war on terror," with a straight face is simply stunning to me. It's nonsensical phrase repeated so often that people parrot it without thought. Terror is an emotion, you don't win wars on emotions

    Saying something so inane like "winning the war on terror" is like saying "we're gonna win the war on happiness." Or "we're gonna win the war on apathy."

    people are stupid.



     
    #18     Mar 8, 2007

  9. Win what? You mean iraq, or afghanistan?

    Because then theres only algeria, morroco, tunisia, chechnya, ukraine, egypt, sudan, the balkans, indonesia, the phillipines, pakistan, lebanon, yemen, saudi arabia, lybia, iran, yemen, qatar and a few others to somehow de-radicalise.......the actual groundwar component of the "war on terror" seems , somehow, dodgy.
     
    #19     Mar 8, 2007
  10. fhl

    fhl

    I see your point. Since there are so many, lets surrender.
     
    #20     Mar 8, 2007