A 70k bet that I can't make a 50% gain in 2009

Discussion in 'Journals' started by geez, Dec 21, 2008.

  1. geez

    geez

    5/8/09:


    9:56 1000 WLP SHORT 49.10
    STOP 49.30
    TGT 48.70
     
    #1021     May 8, 2009
  2. AA48

    AA48

    Why short a a stock making a higher high and in a day that started very bullish?
     
    #1022     May 8, 2009
  3. <img src="http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=2418925" />

    I was baffled too.
     
    #1023     May 8, 2009
  4. geez

    geez

    5/8/09:

    10:46 1200 UNH SHORT 29.20
    STOP 29.35
    TGT 28.90
     
    #1024     May 8, 2009
  5. AA48

    AA48

    I am sure Geez will explain later....What I want to ask is if someone is familiar with the work of Van Tharp.He is a market wizard and I've read 1-2 of his books.He insists n the matter of money and trade management and he has performed some interesting experiments.

    In one of these,they put monkeys,yes monkeys,to shoot darts on a board listing the stocks...Then they bought the stock (they played only the long side) risking 1% of their capital.Geez is risking even less...If I remember well,they had a target of 3:1.

    The result? you bet....profitable,very profitable.Although their w/l ratio was under 0.40.

    This is why I insist that Geez has an "edge" and the edge is his 2:1 target,besides his very small risk on each trade.If his platform allows him to ause OCO orders,he could go away from his PC and the trade would travel alone....

    The "Turtles" used the same concept.They were buing a 52 week high and they played with volatility,ATR.Again,very profitable...It's the discipline of having money at the table (profit) and calmly waiting for your target to be reached that makes all the difference....

    Now a question for Geez....do you have a plan for re-entering a stock,if the same pattern appears? in this way,you could catch a home run,taking "pieces" of the trend.
     
    #1025     May 8, 2009
  6. geez

    geez

    11:16 1200 UNH EXIT 28.84
    P/L +418.16
     
    #1026     May 8, 2009
  7. Good one :)

    <img src="http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=2419080" />

    Does any one trade with Geez's published trade which is posted almost real-time?

    I seriously got tempted couple of times on a slightly better entry.
     
    #1027     May 8, 2009
  8. Thanagar

    Thanagar

    I have at times, but it's not always feasible when it's a fast-moving stock (especially those juiced-up ETFs). I suspect that Geez would suggest that you use his methods and apply them to stocks (or indexes) that you feel comfortable with, rather than follow him blindly. After all, one way or another, he'll be done by the end of the year, and then what would you do?
     
    #1028     May 8, 2009
  9. AA48

    AA48

    Quote from an article on "Currency trader" magazine:

    "Raising a stop protects profits,
    but also cuts them short"

    Geez was very clear,a few days ago,in explaining to me why he usually doesn't move his stops.
     
    #1029     May 8, 2009
  10. geez

    geez

    5/8/09:

    1:46 1000 SDS BUY 56.74
    STOP 56.54
    TGT 57.14
     
    #1030     May 8, 2009