And let's discuss -- once again -- in-depth why Covid vaccines are much better than "natural immunity". It's time to drive the points home. No, your antibodies are not better than vaccination: An explainer Infection does offer some immune protection—but it's unreliable compared with vaccines. https://arstechnica.com/science/202...tion-why-everyone-should-get-a-covid-19-shot/ In one study Ars reported on back in June of last year, researchers looking at SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in people who had recovered found that the difference between the highest and lowest levels varied by a factor of over 1,000. The researchers saw even more variability when they looked at neutralizing antibodies—those known to bind to the virus and prevent it from infecting cells. Neutralizing antibody levels in recovered people varied over a range of 40,000-fold, and up to 20 percent of people didn't have any detectable level of neutralizing antibody. Let's also read the large bolded print below... Nearly 40% of people don't have antibody protection which lasts 6 months to stop reinfection with Covid. From the article: From the analysis, the researchers created five categories based on how long antibodies lasted in an individual. The first category, called the "negative" group, included the individuals who never developed detectable neutralizing antibodies. This group comprised 11.6% of participants. Comprising 26.8% of patients, the second group is called the "rapid waning" group and showed varying early levels of antibodies that waned quickly. The third category comprised 29% of participants and was called the "slow waning" group as these patients tested positive for antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 for up to half a year. The fourth group, called the "persistent" group, comprised 31.7% of patients and showed little change in their antibody levels up to 180 days. The last group, or the "delayed response" group, covered only 1.8% of subjects and included those who showed a marked rise in neutralizing antibodies during late convalescence. Individual COVID-19 Antibodies Could Last Days To Decades, Scientists Find https://www.ibtimes.com/individual-...uld-last-days-decades-scientists-find-3168292
I think the biggest benefit to the vaccine is preventing a bad case of covid rather than preventing getting covid. Just 6-8 months after being vaccinated they want you to get vaccinated again with a booster shot.Its been over a year and a half since I had covid and the natrual immunity is still protecting me as I haven't gotten it again.I know many others as well who got covid in the beginning and still haven't gotten it a second time.I haven't even had a cold or the flu since I had covid.
Let's take a look at a much broader dataset than the trials; the KFF vaccinated breakthrough rate by state or the CDC data on vaccinated breakthrough rate. The CDC and KFF data covering millions of people in the U.S. and the vaccinated breakthrough cases. The maximum vaccinated breakthrough rate in any state is around 0.56% and most states are below 0.2%
Lets look at the trails where it is documented under rigorous medical supervision who got the shot and than got covid. What % of people in the trails got the shots and still got covid?
You can drive points home all you want, we've gone over this: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-00436-4 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04060-7 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciimmunol.abi6950 https://www.rockefeller.edu/news/30...fferences-in-covid-antibody-responses-emerge/
So are you going to be like Jem --- try to claim that in an individual who has no measurable anti-bodies that somehow T-Cells will magically appear and fight off Covid re-infection --- due to their "natural immunity". Let me assure you this is not true -- and has no basis in science. Bottom Line: If you have no measurable anti-bodies from either vaccination or previous infection then you are not immune to the disease. This is why they use anti-body level tests to prove if you are immune to a virus.
It's time you stop spreading misinformation, have you no shame? https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-00436-4 https://www.pennmedicine.org/news/n...obust-tcell-response-to-mrna-covid19-vaccines https://theconversation.com/covid-1...lasts-and-works-against-virus-variants-166757
So -- let's ask once again -- it is your position that if f you have no measurable anti-bodies from either vaccination or previous infection then you are immune to a disease. Because of "magical T-Cells". Explain to us then why they don't use a "T-Cell detection test" then to determine if you are immune to a disease when you go to the doctor.