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Discussion in 'Trading' started by fordewind, Jun 16, 2017.

  1. Xela

    Xela


    It has limited meaning without references to time-frames.

    However you define "trending" (and there are many different working definitions, of course), it's normal for financial instruments to be trending in one direction when viewed within a specific time-frame, while ranging or even sometimes trending in the opposite direction within others.

    If you're thinking of a specific type of instrument, as viewed within a specific time-frame, what you say may well be perfectly true, of course.

    But there's also a "bigger picture": context is everything.
     
    #21     Jun 17, 2017
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  2. maxpi

    maxpi

    I'd say that if you want to scan all 'timeframes' markets are almost always trending.
     
    #22     Jun 17, 2017
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  3. Xela

    Xela


    I don't think that's much of a description of "trending", let alone a definition?

    "Price changing predominantly in the same overall direction" would surely be a little more descriptive?
     
    #23     Jun 17, 2017
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  4. Test for stationarity, you noobs.
     
    #24     Jun 17, 2017
  5. java

    java

    Pick any point in the past. 5 min ago, 5 years ago etc. and the most recent price. If the recent price is higher it could be in an uptrend? 3 months ago it was 10, now it's 20, so bonafide uptrend? Except last month it was 50. But still compared to 3 months ago it is trending up?
     
    #25     Jun 17, 2017
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  6. algofy

    algofy

    ? What does this even mean?
     
    #26     Jun 17, 2017
  7. How random does the Nasdaq chart look to you?
     
    #27     Jun 18, 2017
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  8. Xela

    Xela


    (I know you weren't asking me but) obviously not very random at all.

    It's kind of "questionable" - not to put too fine a point on it - whether it's really worth responding to people in trading forums who state that markets are random.

    I'm "just saying": it's the classic illustration of how anything can be alleged in the absence of a definition of its terms.

    "Random" is one of those words like "predictable", when applied to trading: they're both terms whose absence of definition just leads to everyone talking at cross purposes, really.
     
    #28     Jun 18, 2017
  9. i960

    i960

    Anyone who thinks every day is random and completely ignores any of the collective behavior of buyers and sellers in a given area just plain doesn't understand markets.

    At an underlying level it's all driven by trends of some sort. At the infinitely large time frame is it a giant range? Probably not. The output of the sun over it's entire lifetime isn't a range is it?
     
    #29     Jun 18, 2017
  10. java

    java

    For a market that isn't random, people sure do have a hard time predicting whether even tomorrow will be an up day or a down day.
     
    #30     Jun 18, 2017
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