75% of pastors believe Mormons are not Christians

Discussion in 'Politics' started by AK Forty Seven, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. Max E.

    Max E.

    Indeed you are in denial, everyone with a brain (that obviously excludes you)knows that spending originates in congress, unfortunately you will never understand this because obamas balls are so far down your throat that they are cutting off the oxygen supply to your head.

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    #11     Oct 13, 2011
  2. Unless Congress has a 2/3rd majority The President controls the budget.There was not a 2/3rds majority under Reagan or Clinton

    The President proposes the budget,The President can veto it if he doesn't like what Congress sends back to him



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget

    United States federal budget


    The Budget of the United States Government is the President's proposal to the U.S. Congress which recommends funding levels for the next fiscal year, beginning October 1. Congressional decisions are governed by rules and legislation regarding the federal budget process. Budget committees set spending limits for the House and Senate committees and for Appropriations subcommittees, which then approve individual appropriations bills to allocate funding to various federal programs.

    After Congress approves an appropriations bill, it is sent to the President, who may sign it into law, or may veto it. A vetoed bill is sent back to Congress, which can pass it into law with a two-thirds majority in each chamber.




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    #12     Oct 13, 2011
  3. funny how it works. if religions were a drug and we compared the results what would we find.
    mormans have less divorce,better educated well behaved kids, less crime, no smoking or drinking. are at the top of healthy body scales.
    what do we find when we look at christians. generally unhealthy, 50% divorce,spoiled brats as kids,high prision populations,prone to fighting, lots of spouse abuse,lots of drinking and drug abuse.
    why would anyone take the christian drug?
     
    #13     Oct 13, 2011
  4. Solid point
     
    #14     Oct 13, 2011
  5. gblnking

    gblnking

    A recent poll conducted by LifeWay research concluded that 75 percent of America’s pastors do not consider Mormons to be Christian.


    How about polling the LDS if they beleive that they are Christians?
     
    #15     Oct 13, 2011
  6. jem

    jem

    that ak and ft and all the other spend your ass off something for nothing liberals can not argue with... is that graph... that is beautiful.

    any half witted american alive at the time remembers the contract with america forced bill clinton into conservatism. Just ask dick morris... who claims he helped clinton sell out the dems and the big spenders with triagulation so bill could be re elected.

    That sort of triangulation might not even work for Obama now. Obama has shown liberal socialism to be such a failure Obama may have only one chance.... war with Iran.
     
    #16     Oct 14, 2011
  7. Max E.

    Max E.

    Yep, its funny watching the way guys like AK47/Range Rover operate. He is either mentally retarded, or willfully ignorant. Everyone knows that congress designs the budget, and designs any of the bills that go through it. Dont get me wrong, Bush and Reagan were just as guilty, because they signed all this garbage into law, and they also threw out alot of bad ideas. I just find it humorous when these jackasses make the claims that republicans are the big spenders.

    Here we have a group of 500+ people who create everything that becomes law and every single time the majority of those 500 people are democrats the debt drastically rises, Every time the majority of those 500 people are conservative the debt decreases, yet dumb asses will claim that the big spenders are conservatives, because 1 conservative (Reagan) was to much of a chicken shit to veto all of the liberal spending bills. And 1 other conservative (Bush) was a hopeless moron.

    The other thing is that liberals will fight tooth and nail to maintain spending on programs, and they will fight for more government spending, they will willingly admit they want more government spending, and when a conservative argues to lower spending they will demonize that person. So on the one hand they will call conservatives heartless bastards for wanting to lower spending on social programs, then they will turn right back around and attack conservatives saying they are the ones who spend to much. Does that even make sense? Why do liberals like AK47 feel the need to lie in order to justify their position? He is a liberal and he supports big spending yet he feels the need to lie and distort facts to justify his opinion. I may not agree with Ricter on anything in terms of politics but i have a lot of respect for him, because he is honest, and he will tell you very bluntly that he is very much in favour of socialism, and more government spending. Most liberals will tell you they are in favour of every single spending program in the book, then they will turn around and tell you they wont vote for a republican because they spend to much. :confused:

    If AK47 had the slightest bit of intellectual honesty, or was even mentally capable of any kind of meaningful statistical analysis, he would realize the fact that control of the house/senate (500+people) is much more statistically significant then 2 presidents. If you were trying to draw a conclusion as to which party traditionally spends more.

    I dont deny that Reagan and Bush were both profligate spenders, and they both share an equal part of the blame, but you would really have to be a delusional shit head to come to the conclusion that conservatives are the big spenders when all the data proves it wrong, only because clinton happened to be in office during the tech bubble, when republicans forced him to balance the budget.

     
    #17     Oct 15, 2011

  8. That graph is beautiful,it shows all years of all that big spending there was a republican president who proposed the budgets and signed those budgets into law

    Democrats did not have a 2/3rds majority so Reagan and Bush could prevented all those big spending bills with the stroke of a pen but of course an idiots like maxi pad would argue it was democrats that signed those bills into law when The Constitution says Reagan and Bush had the final say on those budgets






    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget

    United States federal budget


    The Budget of the United States Government is the President's proposal to the U.S. Congress which recommends funding levels for the next fiscal year, beginning October 1. Congressional decisions are governed by rules and legislation regarding the federal budget process. Budget committees set spending limits for the House and Senate committees and for Appropriations subcommittees, which then approve individual appropriations bills to allocate funding to various federal programs.

    After Congress approves an appropriations bill, it is sent to the President, who may sign it into law, or may veto it. A vetoed bill is sent back to Congress, which can pass it into law with a two-thirds majority in each chamber.
     
    #18     Oct 15, 2011
  9. Clinton best budgets were after he was re elected and and didn't have re election to worry about.The previous democratic president also had fiscally responsible budgets and left the office with a nearly balanced budget and less then a trillion dollar national debt


    I would suggest you not take the word of a former Clinton adviser who was fired by Clinton due to bringing prostitutes he paid for sex into The White House :(
     
    #19     Oct 15, 2011
  10. Max E.

    Max E.

    You have obviously learned a thing or two from your hero bill clinton. You will just double down on stupidity again and again and again even when the blue dress comes back with your DNA all over it.

    First off i find it hilarious you keep playing this childish game where you always respond to me but then claim to have me on ignore and then miraculously something happens that allows you to respond to me, like the other day when you said someone sent you a private message about a thread so you supposedly took me off ignore for a couple minutes to respond to me. It is definitely a sign you are no more then 12 years old.

    Indeed the president makes a recommendation as to what what percentage of the budget should be allotted to each different section. He then hands that off to congress who figure out the exact funding levels for everything. There is also a large portion of the budget which they create which is money that can be freely spent but doesn't necessarily have to be spent. Guess which party spends that money every single time?

    Like i said Reagan and Bush were just as guilty for signing this shit into law, but you are a delusional moron who doesn't understand the way government operates, you are what the democratic party, and Obama calls a "useful idiot" as you will convince yourself that the most ridiculous concepts are true, so long as those concepts come to the conclusion that:

    Democrats = Good
    Republicans = Bad

    The one thing that is un deniable is that the only time in our lifetime when the democrats have ever had a super majority and fillibuster proof control of all three houses, we saw record job losses, record spending, and record deficits, on top of that monstrosity of a bill called Obamacare.

    How do you like them apples?

    In Obama speak, I really HOPE that you eventually learn to CHANGE your own diaper, as it will then be 1 less turd that myself and every other tax payer has to take care of.

    Hope/Change 2012!!!!

     
    #20     Oct 15, 2011