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Discussion in 'Politics' started by bearice, Jan 22, 2011.

  1. You're anti-American trash aren't you! [​IMG]

    Yes, it was the Soviet Union that beat the US in reaching Berlin. US could have gone into Berlin. Certainly it wasn't Russia that beat Japan and developed the atomic bomb.
     
    #21     Jan 24, 2011
  2. I believe Germany's "official" position was that they wanted "German people to have room to live"... by taking over bits/ALL of Europe. An age-old them of "take the other guy's land and stuff if you can"...
     
    #22     Jan 24, 2011
  3. I don't agree with you much but on this you're correct.
    Two things were at work here:

    1 - Eisenhower vetoed Patton's plan to surround and cut off the German forces in the Battle of the Bulge, which would have allowed the Western Allies to go straight to Berlin with nothing to stop them. Instead he forced a push head on. This is pure speculation on my part, but I think it was because he didn't want any German to think, as they did after WWI, that they could have somehow won. I think he wanted to grind them up so there was no question who lost.
    2 - The USSR lost a huge number of men, way more than the West. Of course, a large part of the blame for this lies with Stalin's betrayal of everyone with his non-aggression pact with Hitler. Also, it was the Americans who supplied them with the logistical equipment - Ford trucks - they needed to beat Hitler, their own railroads having been largely destroyed by the Germans. Not to mention fighting Japan in the Pacific, allowing the USSR to concentrate on the Germans. We and the British fought in Europe and Asia, while the USSR fought strictly in Europe until close to the end. Still, they could and did argue, successfully, that they be allowed to get to Berlin first as a result of the losses they had taken. It was pure politics, not at all a result of military facts on the ground.
     
    #23     Jan 24, 2011
  4. them = theme
     
    #24     Jan 24, 2011
  5. Wow, how old are you? Why are you just learnings about WW2 now? Unless of course you're in high school...
     
    #25     Jan 24, 2011
  6. Some would argue that it started with the Japanese vs. China war in the 30's. But September 1, 1939 is the most commonly referred to start date as that is when the war began to affect Europe.

    Similar to the way in which some people regard the end of the war as being when the Nazi's were defeated, as opposed to Japan.
     
    #26     Jan 24, 2011
  7. I know how many countries will be involved in World War 3.
     
    #27     Jan 24, 2011
  8. Wallet

    Wallet

    The only thing that kept Russia from being overrun by the Germans was the harsh winter, German ground mechanical units froze and the fact that the Germans had to split their forces even more so after D-Day defending two active fronts.

    Europe and Asia was a mess until the USA entered WWII
     
    #28     Jan 24, 2011
  9. In a sense it was, WWI started with the assisination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.

    WWII was a direct result of and a continuation of WWI.
     
    #29     Jan 25, 2011
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    this always makes me laugh: What if World War II was an Online Multiplayer Game:

    *Hitler[AoE] has joined the game.*
    *Eisenhower has joined the game.*
    *paTTon has joined the game.*
    *MacRthr has joined the game. *
    *Churchill has joined the game.*
    *benny-tow has joined the game.*
    *T0J0 has joined the game.*
    *Roosevelt has joined the game.*
    *Stalin has joined the game.*
    *deGaulle has joined the game.*

    Roosevelt: hey sup
    T0J0: y0
    Stalin: hi
    Churchill: hi
    Hitler[AoE]: cool, i start with panzer tanks!
    paTTon: lol more like panzy tanks
    T0JO: lol
    Roosevelt: o this fuckin sucks i got a depression!
    benny-tow: haha america sux
    Stalin: hey hitler you dont fight me i dont fight u, cool?
    Hitler[AoE]; sure whatever
    Stalin: cool
    deGaulle: shit Hitler rushed some1 help
    Hitler[AoE]: lol byebye frenchy
    Roosevelt: i dont got shit to help, sry
    Churchill: wtf the luftwaffle is attacking me
    Roosevelt: get antiair guns
    Churchill: i cant afford them
    benny-tow: u n00bs know what team talk is?
    paTTon: stfu
    Roosevelt: o yah hit the navajo button guys
    deGaulle: eisenhower ur worthless come help me quick
    Eisenhower: i cant do shit til rosevelt gives me an army
    paTTon: yah hurry the fuck up
    Churchill: d00d im gettin pounded
    deGaulle: this is fuckin weak u guys suck
    *deGaulle has left the game.*
    Roosevelt: im gonna attack the axis k?
    benny-tow: with what? ur wheelchair?
    benny-tow: lol did u mess up ur legs AND ur head?
    Hitler[AoE]: ROFLMAO
    T0J0: lol o no america im comin 4 u
    Roosevelt: wtf! thats bulshit u fags im gunna kick ur asses
    T0JO: not without ur harbors u wont! lol
    Roosevelt: u little bitch ill get u
    T0J0: mac i'm totally kicking ur ass
    MacRthr: BRB AFK
    Hitler[AoE]: wtf
    Hitler[AoE]: america hax, u had depression and now u got a huge fuckin army
    Hitler[AoE]: thats bullshit u hacker
    Churchill: lol no more france for u hitler
    Hitler[AoE]: tojo help me!
    T0J0: wtf u want me to do, im on the other side of the world retard
    Hitler[AoE]: fine ill clear you a path
    Stalin: WTF u asshoel! WE HAD A FUCKIN TRUCE
    Hitler[AoE]: i changed my mind lol
    benny-tow: haha
    benny-tow: hey ur losing ur guys in africa im gonna need help in italy soon sum1
    T0J0: o shit i cant help u i got my hands full
    Hitler[AoE]: im 2 busy 2 help
    Roosevelt: yah thats right bitch im comin for ya
    Stalin: church help me
    Churchill: like u helped me before? sure ill just sit here
    Stalin: dont be an ass
    Churchill: dont be a commie. oops too late
    Eisenhower: LOL
    benny-tow: hahahh oh shit help
    Hitler: o man ur fucked
    paTTon: oh what now bitch
    Roosevelt: whos the cripple now lol
    *benny-tow has been eliminated.*
    benny-tow: lame
    Roosevelt: gj patton
    paTTon: thnx
    Hitler[AoE]: WTF eisenhower hax hes killing all my shit!
    Hitler[AoE]: quit u hacker so u dont ruin my record
    Eisenhower: Nuts!
    benny~tow: wtf that mean?
    Eisenhower: meant to say nutsack lol finger slipped
    paTTon: coming to get u hitler u paper hanging hun fucking asshole
    Stalin: rofl
    T0J0: HAHAHHAA
    Hitler[AoE]: u guys are fuckin gay
    Hitler[AoE]: ur never getting in my city
    *Hitler[AoE] has been eliminated.*
    benny~tow: OMG u noob you killed yourself
    Eisenhower: ROFLOLOLOL
    Stalin: OMG LMAO!
    Hitler[AoE]: WTF i didnt click there omg this game blows
    *Hitler[AoE] has left the game*
    paTTon: hahahhah
    T0J0: WTF my teammates are n00bs
    benny~tow: shut up noob
    Roosevelt: haha wut a moron
    paTTon: wtf am i gunna do now?
    Eisenhower: yah me too
    T0J0: why dont u attack me o thats right u dont got no ships lololol
    Eisenhower: fuck u
    paTTon: lemme go thru ur base commie
    Stalin: go to hell lol
    paTTon: fuck this shit im goin afk
    Eisenhower: yah this is gay
    MacRthr: k back!
    *Roosevelt has left the game.*
    Hitler[AoE]: wtf?
    Eisenhower: shit now we need some1 to join
    *tru_m4n has joined the game.*
    tru_m4n: hi all
    T0J0: hey
    Stalin: sup
    Churchill: hi
    tru_m4n: OMG OMG OMG i got all his stuff!
    tru_m4n: NUKES! HOLY SHIT I GOT NUKES
    Stalin: d00d gimmie some plz
    tru_m4n: no way i only got like a couple
    Stalin: omg dont be gay gimmie nuculer secrets
    T0J0: wtf is nukes?
    T0J0: holy shit holy shit hoyl shit!
    *T0J0 has been eliminated.*
    *The Allied team has won the game!*
    Eisenhower: awesome!
    Churchill: gg noobs no re
    T0J0: thats bullshit u fuckin suck
    *T0J0 has left the game.*
    *Eisenhower has left the game.*
    Stalin: next game im not going to be on ur team, u guys didnt help me for shit
    Churchill: wutever, we didnt need ur help neway assholes
    tru_m4n: l8r all
    benny~tow: bye
    Churchill: l8r
    Stalin: fuck u all
    MacRthr: fuck u commie!!!
    MacRthr: ur next bitch!
    tru_m4n: shut up commie lol
    *tru_m4n has left the game.*
    benny~tow: lololol u commie
    Churchill: ROFL
    Churchill: bye commie
    *Churchill has left the game.*
    *benny~tow has left the game.*
    *MacRthr has left the game.*
    Stalin: i hate u all fags
    *Stalin has left the game.*
    paTTon: lol no1 is left
    paTTon: weeeee i got a jeep
    *paTTon has been eliminated.*
    paTTon: o shit!
    *paTTon has left the game.*
     
    #30     Jan 25, 2011