$700B Bailout Could Balloon to $5Trillion

Discussion in 'Economics' started by toc, Sep 27, 2008.

  1. toc

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    I do support the bailout but read the figures in the article..........they are scary!

    Bloomberg Analyst: $700 Billion Bailout Could Balloon to $5 Trillion
    Marc Faber Ltd. director calls initial cost estimates a 'drop in the bucket,' says real solution is to bring down overleveraging.

    By Jeff Poor
    Business & Media Institute
    9/26/2008 11:09:16 AM


    Conservative House Republicans and economists warn about the toll a $700 billion federal bailout of the financial sector would have on the taxpayers footing the bill. But according to Bloomberg TV analyst Marc Faber, the actual cost could be closer to $5 trillion.



    Faber, author of the “Gloom Boom Doom” report, appeared on Bloomberg TV’s Sept. 26 broadcast of “Bloomberg Today” and noted just how small the proposed $700 billion bailout is compared to the overall U.S. credit market.



    “So now they try to solve the problem by having this credit bubble actually extended and I think the $700 billion will be like a drop in the bucket because the total credit market in the U.S. is something close to $60 trillion, then you have the CDS market – credit default swap – of around $62 trillion. Then you have the whole derivatives worldwide worth about a notional $1,300 trillion. So the $700 billion is really nothing and the Treasury is just giving out this figure when actually the end figure may be $5 trillion.”



    Faber, managing director of Marc Faber Ltd., is known for predicting the October 1987 stock market crash one week before it happened.



    In his Bloomberg TV analysis of the financial bailout, Faber noted the inconsistencies of government intervention to date, but not without taking a swipe at the compensation of Wall Street executives.



    “The reaction to that is inconsistent,” Faber said. “You let essentially Lehman Brothers go bankrupt but you save AIG and you save other brokers by merging them with banks and then you come with a bailout plan that should be paid by the taxpayer, when Wall Street last year in total received a compensation of $69 billion - $38-39 billion of which were bonuses paid to the executives essentially of Wall Street.”



    Faber told “Bloomberg Today” host Jeremy Naylor the solution isn’t government intervention through a bailout, but to figure out how to eliminate the excessive leveraging in U.S. financial markets.



    “Well first of all, I think the decline of home prices of 20 percent is a relatively minor decline so far,” Faber said. “And it’s created so many problems. It’s not the problem that home prices have gone down. The problem is excessive leverage. And somewhere, somehow, the U.S. has to try to bring down the excess leverage that exists in the system – that incidentally was built over the last seven to 15 years under Fed chairman Mr. Greenspan and then also under Mr. Bernanke.”
     
  2. The problem with the bailout is that the first four or five "bailouts" failed and got us to point of this "bailout".

    The writer who said it could go to 5 trillion does not make an illogical argument.

    You have the same crowd going down the same road, time and time again.

    It is the only road they know, rob the public treasury of lots money and throw it at the problem.

    Paulson's bazooka comment during the Freddie and Fannie possble takeover was revealing.

    He had NO clue on the scope of the problem nor what Pandora's box he was opening.

    Paulson and his crowd have now escalated to asking for Big Bertha.

    He will be gone by the time the next guy in his seat going down the same road and asks for whatever comes after Big Bertha.

    Personally, I would recommend that they take some of our army and invade Saudi Arabia and nationalize their oils fields. That would be worth a few trillon.

    If the Gubmint going to rape, pillage, plunder, and scavenge for treasure to bail out their greedy buddies on Wall Street, I would prefer they do it on foreign soil to a foreign power.
     
  3. thats another thing I meant to bring up before.

    do any of you idiots behind the Bailout really think its going to stop at $700 bil?Of course not,thats just the beginning to get people suckered in, then they can say 'well we underestimated our costs and need another 700 bil',then again and again and again.....

    like I said before, no Bailout is good and stocks will rally on that news I think they will rally hard.