68% of QAnon insurrectionists have mental health diagnoses

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  1. smallfil

    smallfil

    When ET trolls open their mouths, you know their Trump Derangement Syndrome is in full bloom. You cannot miss it at all. Define what is classified as mental illness? I would say those racist, intolerant, hateful extreme liberals asking for the firing from their job of anyone they have disagreements with including, our ET trolls would easily fall in the mentally deranged individuals. Get help before it is too late. One day, you ET trolls will open your mouths and another extreme liberal idiot will just punch you in the face. Your fault would be you offended them because you were maybe, a shade whiter in skin color and be deemed a white privileged individual. Karma. Just wait for it.
     
    #11     Mar 26, 2021
  2. TDS will live on for decades. It's obvious.
     
    #12     Mar 26, 2021
  3. smallfil

    smallfil

    #13     Mar 26, 2021
  4. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    If you need help to get out of Qanon or shed your conspiracy theories...there's help out there for you before it ruins your life. :D

    “I was brainwashed. My lowest was believing Lady Gaga worshipped Satan and ate children with Hillary Clinton,” Ross said.

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    He once thought Hillary Clinton and Lady Gaga ate babies. Now he wants to help people out of QAnon

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    Stephen Ross went from being one of Lady Gaga’s “little monsters” in high school to believing she was a cannibal pedophile.

    The Massachusetts native says he was a sheltered kid whose “overprotective” parents severely restricted his screen time before he left home at age 18, shortly after coming out as gay.

    He entered the world a smart but insecure and gullible bleeding heart — the perfect mark.

    When one of his first serious boyfriends — a fan of InfoWars host Alex Jones — introduced him to the “truther” movement that considers the 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting a hoax, he started his lengthy fall down the rabbit hole.

    “I became obsessed with Sandy Hook. I got enraged. I couldn’t believe they’d have kid actors,” Ross, 27, told the Daily News about his descent and eventual extrication from the perverse patchwork of conspiracy theories now underpinning the unhinged world of QAnon.

    A subsequent boyfriend got Ross involved in an “evangelical cult” that further distorted his world view, he said. By the second half of 2016, he was lost in a morass of online conspiracy theories fed to him by algorithms that compounded and reinforced what he saw, he explained.

    “What really got me freaking out was Pizzagate,” Ross said, referring to the baseless conspiracy theory that asserted Democratic leaders were part of a child trafficking ring connected to a pizza parlor.

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    Stephen with Lady Gaga at a meet and greet for her titled "The Monster Ball" at the Wang Theatre in Boston in December 2009. (Obtained by Daily News)
    “I was brainwashed. My lowest was believing Lady Gaga worshipped Satan and ate children with Hillary Clinton,” Ross said.

    “Crazy right? I used to think Hillary ate children. It’s like I was a different person. I don’t know who that person was,” he said.

    “All I wanted to do was help people who were hurting, but that world turned me into a person who hated everyone,” he explained.

    Inside the bizarro world of conspiracy 'cult' QAnon »

    Ross credits his “moral compass” with slowly pulling him out of the abyss.
    • He started to question Donald Trump’s “drain the swamp” moral high ground when the newly elected president appointed wealthy cronies to his cabinet. And he couldn’t shake his disgust at the “Access Hollywood” tape in which Trump boasted about grabbing women’s genitals.
    Ross was struggling with his beliefs and living in a log cabin in eastern Pennsylvania when his parents came to visit in 2017.

    “They saw me in a zombie state. The life had been sucked out of me. I was disinterested and couldn’t hold eye contact,” he said. “They were just walking on eggshells at a distance from me. I was so aggressive toward them. I was still so brainwashed.”

    Ross said sometime after the visit, he called his dad to say he felt utterly lost and maybe the answer was denying his sexuality and marrying a woman.

    “His reaction was like, ‘No, we love you no matter what. We’re just worried about you and want you to be happy,’” Ross recalled.

    Ross said he was still on the fence about what to do when his parents pressed him to move to Texas and live with his older sister.

    Conspiracy theories have hounded America since the start, just used in new ways »

    “They paid for my hotels and sent me gas money. They mailed me a big box of snacks and a binder of maps with the route all the way down,” he said, his voice cracking with emotion.

    “That three-day trip, seeing the world and knowing there was somewhere better for me, that was the first thing. Then hugging my sister, that was a huge moment,” he said.

    Soon he was thrust into a new social realm that “distracted” him from the alternate reality that previously consumed him, he said.

    He met the love of his life, got engaged, and with his new fiancé bought the rights to the web address DebunkQanon.com, he said.

    They plan to launch the website before the election with research debunking many of the main conspiracy theories behind QAnon.

    “There’s clearly been a problem with our education system. I’m pretty smart. I did well in school. Out of 400 kids in my class, I was No. 12. But I did not have good logic skills,” he said. “The second people started shouting at me, ‘This is crazy! You have to be upset!’ I was right there saying, ‘Yes, I’m upset!’”

    Ross said he hopes to reach others still struggling with the bizarre beliefs that nearly destroyed him.

    “What people don’t realize is that their lives are so filled with stress, anxiety and pain when they believe this stuff, and it doesn’t have to be that way,” he said. “They just have to start, one at a time, reaching out to people with different opinions.”

    That’s what Ross did. He started listening to Lady Gaga again. He turned from the darkest corners of the Internet to Marianne Williamson, Trevor Noah and Hasan Minaj.

    “I saw Hillary Clinton’s interview with Howard Stern and bawled my eyes out,” he said. “She’s an actual human being, an amazing woman who’s done so much.”
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  6. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Another sick / twisted / creepy Qanon believer...that kills family members. Hopefully she'll get capitol punishment.

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    Reseda mom who admitted to drowning her 3 children had posted about depression, QAnon-style conspiracies

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    by: Los Angeles Times

    Posted: Apr 18, 2021 / 12:39 PM PDT / Updated: Apr 18, 2021 / 12:42 PM PDT

    Liliana Carrillo’s unraveling over the last year alarmed people in her life.

    On Facebook, she spoke of “random invasive feelings of despair and pain.” She said she was “hating being a parent” to her brood of young children and wished she could go back in time.

    “I have absolutely no patience or tolerance left,” she added.

    More recently, she began to echo the delusion of QAnon believers. She was consumed by the idea that Porterville, Calif., was the site of a child sex-trafficking ring, according to court records, and contended that the blame for the pandemic rested on her shoulders.

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    In an exclusive interview with 17 News, the “prime suspect” in the deaths of her three children in Reseda admitted to the killings. Carrillo spoke to 17’s Eytan Wallace on Thursday afternoon. She admitted to drowning the children, she says to protect them from their father who she alleges was involved in human trafficking.

    Carrillo and her estranged husband, Erik Denton, were involved in a bitter custody dispute. “I drowned them. I did it as softly, I don’t know how to explain it,” Carrillo said. “I hugged them. I kissed them. I was apologizing the whole time. I loved my kids.”

    The Los Angeles Times reports:

    More recently, she began to echo the delusion of QAnon believers. She was consumed by the idea that Porterville, Calif., was the site of a child sex-trafficking ring, according to court records, and contended that the blame for the pandemic rested on her shoulders.

    She started making wild allegations of child abuse, according to court records. Social workers and police in two counties got involved.

    The children’s father, Erik Denton, convinced a judge to award him physical custody of their three children, saying Carrillo was experiencing a psychotic episode and he feared for the kids’ well-being.
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    #16     Apr 18, 2021
  7. smallfil

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    #17     Apr 18, 2021
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    Former QAnon Followers Explain What Drew Them In — And Got Them Out

    Like those leaving cults, some people who believe in conspiracy theories like QAnon and Pizzagate can break free from their beliefs

    By EJ Dickson

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    Jitarth Jadeja is a hirsute man in his early thirties, charming and jovial, speaking with equal effusiveness about economics and his baby niece. He’s an atheist, pro-choice and pro-drug decriminalization, who supported Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primary. He doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who would be deeply invested in a dangerous far-right conspiracy theory involving baby-eating Democrats and Hollywood actors. But for two and a half years, he says, that’s exactly what he was.

    “It’s almost like a drug,” he tells Rolling Stone from his parents’ house in Sydney, Australia. “You read a Q drop and he tells you something, and you’re like, ‘Whoa dude, that’s crazy’….a hit of dopamine goes off in your brain, and you have to go in deeper and deeper and deeper in order to get that feeling again. When Q first started posting I felt like, ‘Here is an explanation that, while it doesn’t make sense, if it were true explains the situation better than the current explanations I’m getting.'”

    QAnon is a loosely connected system of conspiracy theories and unfounded beliefs spawned by Q, an anonymous on forums like 8chan (now 8kun) claiming to have high-end military clearance within the Trump administration. QAnon adherents believe, among other things, in the existence of a deep state cabal of pedophiles and child traffickers led by prominent liberals like the Clintons, and that President Trump is lying in wait to arrest and execute his enemies.

    Recently, QAnon has gotten a great deal of attention in the media due to QAnon-promoting congressional candidates such as Republican nominees Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert, thus bringing the theory mainstream. It has also been linked to violence, such as the 2019 shooting of a Staten Island mob boss by a QAnon supporter and a Texas woman attacking two strangers with her car earlier this year because she believed them to be child traffickers. President Trump has refused to overtly discredit or reject QAnon ideology, to the delight of believers, whose primary goal is to win Trump’s attention.

    “They desperately need a place to put their anger and a way to make sense of the world. Us versus them, the horrible bad guys, is something they all seem to cling to,” says cult expert Diane Benscoter, who has spoken to numerous people whose loved ones are involved in QAnon. “The doctrine makes it easy to say, ‘Clearly we have to make a stand against this,’ and it feels really good to believe you’re on the side of righteousness and saving children.”

    The mainstreaming of QAnon has also led to the advent of subreddits like r/QAnonCasualties and r/ReQuovery, for family members of QAnon believers to discuss the impact the ideology has had on their lives. Former believers who’ve extricated themselves have also taken to such subreddits to share their own stories, recounting what drew them in and providing tips and resources for those trying to get their family members out.

    “I was disillusioned with the system, and seeing the system reward corruption, the idea that these people were so corrupt there was nothing they couldn’t do wasn’t that outlandish to me,” says Lem, 26, a computer programmer in Columbus, Ohio.

    Like Jadeja, Lem did not identify as conservative, and supported Sanders during the 2016 primary; his disgust with the liberal establishment after having seen Sanders passed over for Hillary Clinton at the 2016 Democratic National Convention is what led him to become obsessed with Pizzagate, the antecedent to QAnon, a conspiracy theory suggesting that Clinton and other Democratic operatives were running a child trafficking ring out of the basement of Comet Ping-Pong Pizza in Washington, D.C.

    Anti-Clinton sentiment stoked by vloggers on YouTube set the stage for him to believe even the most outlandish claims proposed by Pizzagaters. It also helped, he says, that he grew up in an extremely religious Christian Baptist family (He says his father is still an ardent QAnon believer). “[Growing] up 18 years in that household played a role into my being primed believing something that was outlandish,” he says. “[The] fact that you can have that kind of faith in certain things leads you to be open into believing certain things without there necessarily being proof.”

    Another common thread among the stories of former believers on Reddit is a history of mental illness. Jadeja had recently disconnected himself from many of his friends; he was isolated and intensely struggling with depression and undiagnosed bipolar II disorder. Because he was in graduate school, he also had a lot of time on his hands. “I was, I guess you could say, a prime candidate for Q to take a hold of me,” he says.

    Ivan*, 26, who asked to be identified by a pseudonym for fear of getting doxxed, was struggling with anxiety and depression when he stumbled on Pizzagate in the subreddit r/cringeanarchy in 2016, right before Trump’s election. Though r/cringeanarchy, which would later be banned, was a haven of far-right “edgy” content, “I was politically illiterate,” though alienated and embittered, he recalls. Swapping theories about Pizzagate “wasn’t about politics. It was about team sports. It was about cheering for this side, for Team Right.” Scraping together bits of “evidence” whole cloth to support Pizzagate was not just fun, it was also empowering at a time when he was desperate to feel some semblance of control.

    Ivan was conscious enough of how deranged his views sounded that he instinctively knew not to mention them to others — not, he says, that it would have helped. “I distinctly remember that if I read some article about this debunking or fact-checking, I would feel bored. I’d feel like, ‘What am I reading here? They are just probably hiding the truth. It’s not even worth the attention,'” he says. “From my own experience, when you get deep enough, any kind of fact-checking, it just flies right through you and you don’t really capture the information at all.”

    Benscoter agrees that fact-checking is essentially useless. As difficult as it may be, she urges, those with loved ones deep into QAnon must refrain. “To try to make rational arguments is not going to work because they’re not going to think rationally,” she says. “You can throw rocks in it and try to make cracks,” for instance, by asking the other person to consider the possibility that Q may not be who they claim to be. But arguing with a person who is not operating according to logic or reason “just makes them stand firmer,” she says.

    Instead, she advises people to try to appeal to their loved ones’ “higher selves.” “People who get involved in extremist mentality are usually really good people who care deeply about wanting to use their life for something bigger than themselves,” she says. She urges loved ones of QAnon believers to approach the conversation by saying something like, “I know the reason you care so much about this is because you’re a good person and I know you want to do right, but just consider the possibility that you are being lied to,” or, “It would be a shame if you put all this good sincere energy in something that turns out to be a lie.” “If they don’t immediately argue back fervently, if they stop for a moment, that would be a sign of a crack” in their belief system, she says. It may take a long time for such cracks to emerge, but without them believers can’t do the difficult work of setting off on the process of self-rediscovery and recovery from the false delusion of Q.

    It took years for the cracks to emerge for Jadeja, who slowly started to realize that Q drops were laden with logical inconsistencies. A turning point for him was a follower asking Q to get Trump to say the term “tippy top” as proof of Trump’s knowledge of the conspiracy; when Trump did say the phrase during a 2018 Easter egg roll speech, Q believers rejoiced, believing it to be confirmation that Q was real. Jadeja did some research and saw that Trump had said the phrase many times before. “That’s when I realized this was all a very slick con,” he says.

    Today he views the rise of QAnon with abject horror, which is compounded by the fact that he’d also managed to rope his own father into the conspiracy. (Like Lem, Jadeja’s father is still a true believer.) “It’s gone out of control. And it continues to grow out of control. And they’re not going away. Even if Trump loses, they’re not going to go away, they’ll just look at it as part of the conspiracy,” he says. He sees speaking out about his own involvement with the cult of QAnon as a form of penance — even as he worries it may be too late to curb its toxic, potentially lethal influence.

    “Any time you dehumanize any part or segment of the population to such a low level, to the lowest level you can go, people are happy on the opposite side to do the worst against them,” he says of QAnon believers’ views of Trump’s enemies. “That’s the real danger here — not that [QAnon adherents] will get into the Senate. When you frame your opponents [as subhuman], you won’t just watch them burn. You’ll be happy about it.”
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    #18     Apr 19, 2021
  9. smallfil

    smallfil

    When I see extreme liberal idiots getting their just desserts, it puts a smile on my lips. Robert De Niro is one white, privileged, asswipe. Couldn't have happened to a more extreme, intolerant, hateful individual. Call it karma. He has more karma coming his way. Pay up deadbeat.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/niro-unable-turn-down-acting-160456210.html
     
    #19     Apr 19, 2021
  10. userque

    userque

    LOL ... let's wait until Trump, "Q," or The GOP spews the next conspiracy theory, and see how they respond, before absolving these clowns.
     
    #20     Apr 19, 2021
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