6 Questions About Immigration Reform

Discussion in 'Politics' started by pspr, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. pspr


    To all my respectable friends: A big push for “comprehensive immigration reform’–meaning some combination of an amnesty plus some border-securing (“enforcement”) measures–begins this week. It will be portrayed in the MSM as a debate between rational bipartisan problem solvers and retrograde bigots. But it’s not that easy! Here are six questions to think about:

    1. Why won’t this new reform be a repeat of the 1986 reform, when the amnesty provisions were implemented but the enforcement half was blocked by ACLU-style lawsuits and bureaucratic weakness? The result was a broken border and the approximately 11 million new unauthorized immigrants we’re talking about giving amnesty to today. (If it wouldn’t bother you if an Obama amnesty attracted millions of new unauthorized immigrants, then let’s be open about that.)

    2. After this new reform is passed, some people will sneak into the country illegally. What happens to them? Won’t the same arguments–the need to bring people “out of the shadows,” the need not to offend Latino voters, etc.–produce yet another amnesty for them down the road? Don’t potential future border-crossers realize this?

    3. What about the wages of unskilled workers? Unskilled workers have gotten the short end of the economy of recent decades. Many of the jobs they used to do are now done by cheaper workers overseas. Luckily there are still some unskilled jobs that have to be done in the U.S. Are we now importing desperate unskilled foreigners to do those jobs too? Doesn’t the law of supply and demand say this will drive wages for basic work down, at least a bit? Low-income workers are the people Democrats claim to care the most about. Will the immigration reform Dems champion force them to take yet another hit?

    4. Are we really that good at assimilating? Yes, American culture is powerful. But now there is an entrenched lobby for bilingual education, and identity politics curricula that teach young people they’re right to resist assimilation. Formal and informal race preferences reward Americans for maintaining separate ethnic identies. And then there’s Univision, which would go out of business if too many people spoke the common language.

    5. Isn’t Mexico special? Other immigrants had to cross oceans and cut ties to get here–and many still do. But half of our new unauthorized immigrants come from a single country a day’s drive away–a nation with a not-implausible claim to much of our Southwestern territory. The “border” may mean something else to them than it does to us, or to other immigrants. Everywhere else in the world this is a recipe for turmoil. Why are we immune?

    6. Why not “Enforcement First … Amnesty Second”? Preventing unathorized immigration–i.e. having a working border–isn’t easy. We’ve made strides, and immigration flows have slowed significantly. But we still have ways to go –only a minority of employers use the E-Verify system, for example–and we don’t know if the unauthorized flow will resume if the economy, particularly the construction industry, picks up. Why not wait and find out if enforcment measures (including any new ones that would be part of “comprehensive” reform) work–and then, if they do, go ahead give the undocumented the legal status that would ordinarily encourage more uncontrolled border-jumping?

    It’s not like there won’t be political pressure for amnesty in the future.

  2. The sad and tragic answer. It's much easier for these political slugs to sign a new piece of legislation that cleans the slate, AGAIN, rather than enforce the law.
  3. This whole immigration issue is kind of an intelligence test for republicans.

    Do you listen to the mainstream media, who are earnestly insisting that the future viability of the party depends on placating hispanics?

    Or do you look at hispanics' 70% voting skew to Obama and wonder why in the world you would want to add more of them and give them a path to citizenship?

    If the republicans are determined to sell us out on this issue, we will have to abandon them and form another party. Maybe we could even nominate a presdiential candidate who wanted to win and was prepared to do what was necessary.


    Sadly, the Democrats have the numbers .. whether you look at immigrants here illegally, blacks, gays, etc. Obama and the Dem party will do whatever they have to in order to cater to them and guarantee their votes. Meanwhile, hard working people, who are Republicans, see they're a minority as they watch more and more taken from them to give to those who are "entitled".

    And who is multiplying faster? Responsible people who think before they have kids or others who have lots of kids without ever considering how they'll support them financially? The latter group will follow in the footsteps of their parents and want freebies (Medicaid, Section 8 housing, food stamps, etc.) so they'll add even more votes to the Democrat party.
  5. I don't disagree with you.

    Both parties are to blame for this situation. Neither is showing much leadership now.

    The republicans face a demographic issue but why make it worse? Why scheme to bring in or keep the very people who won't vote for you ever?

    The idea that hispanics are suddenly going to start voting for republicans if only we can get past this immigration issue is a fantasy. They are disproportionately low information voters who will vote along perceived racial and class lines, just like they did at home to produce the hellholes they come here to escape.