500 years of Hidden history: http://www.hebrewhistory.org

Discussion in 'Politics' started by harrytrader, Mar 9, 2004.

  1. http://www.hebrewhistory.org/factpapers/khazars23.html

    An Unusual Association

    One of the most ignoble examples of the institutionalized obfuscation of history is that applied to the history of the Khazars by the Byzantines, the Islamic Muhammadans, the pan-Arabists, and the Russian/Stalinist ethnocentrists. Each in turn went to great lengths to expunge whatever records endured the destruction of the Khazar kingdom, and to put a self-serving spin on the surviving elements.

    One reason for the extraordinary effort to distort history was the unique relationship that developed between the Khazars and the Jews. The two peoples, whose languages had different roots, one illiterate and the other highly literate, one shamanist and the other monotheistic, one nomadic and the other urban, peacefully merged to share a common destiny. How, indeed, did such a strange union evolve?

    The association of the two peoples begins early on. The Jews encountered the Turkic tribes, including the Khazars, in the fifth century BCE in Asia, when Judaic entrepreneurs from Persia passed over the Pamir mountains to blaze a new trade route to Kaifeng, then the capital of China.1 Trading centers sprang up along the trail to serve the passing traders and their heavily laden beasts. The caravansaries became bustling commercial towns in which Jews were prominent. Samarkand, Bukhara, Tashkent, Balkh, Kabul, and other posts along the tortuous route through the central Asian deserts and mountains burgeoned with the passing centuries. The Jews and the Turkic nomads enjoyed a peaceful exchange of goods in these strategic centers throughout that long period.

    Many Turkic tribes began to infiltrate into Europe about the fifth century CE. The Magyars moved into what is now Finland; The Avars, Sabirs and Bulgars occupied the Danube basin; the Khazars followed the Kok Turks and spread out along the northern flanks of the Caucacus Mountains, skirting the Aral, Caspian and Black Seas. The tent-dwelling, horse-riding, Khazar herdsmen absorbed some peoples of that hilly area, allied themselves with others, and became transformed into a sedentary nation.
  2. I summarize:
    The Khazars are turkish people originally who have mixed with jews and even adopted their religion: it is these turkish who have become in fact the so called zionism.
  3. Bolts


    This is sort of a microcosm of many of your other posts. A lengthy complex explanation, and then a conclusion that has no apparent relation to the explanation.

  4. There are various conclusions to be deduced from any composed interpretation of any part of any history. Thanks for the history. But if you will please explain the nomad, urban part. What group are you determining as urban and what as namdic?

    I'm quite aware that most steppe peoples were nomadic, and that the jews were and still are quite nomadic. Of course the jews were the literate group, but what form of communication was used for trading?
  5. lengthy :D Hahahaha ! I put TWO LINES ! The rest is quoted litteraly from the JEWISH SITE above. That proves that you don't just mind to care reading anything.

    Now if you prefer this is comments on Arthur Koestler's book a well known JEW AUTHOR who has enquired about the Khaazars :

    "Mr. Koestler's excellent book...Is as readable as it is thought-provoking. Nothing could be more stimulating than the skill, elegance and erudition with which he marshals his facts and develops his theories..." Fitzroy Maclean, New York Times Book Review.

    "You do not have to be Jewish to be interested... Are today's Western Jews really ethnic, Semitic, Biblical Jews, or are most of them descendants of converted Khazars?...This compact, interesting book...examines tragic-ironic implications in [this question] for modern history...It should fascinate." --Edmund Fuller, Wall Street Journal

    "Koestler marshals the evidence in a clear and convincing way. He tells a good story, pulling together materials from medieval Muslims and Jewish travelers, scholarly controversy and the mysterious lore of the Khazars." --Raymond Sokolov, Newsweek

    Robert Kirsch of the Los Angeles Times stated in his lengthy review that 'Arthur Koestler publicizes with his customary skills a daring hypothesis: that THE KHAZAR JEWS MIGRATED TO POLAND AND BECAME THE FOREBEARS OF EASTERN EUROPEAN JEWRY...' Then Kirsch quoted Prof. A. N. Poliak of Tel Aviv University, who stated that "The large majority of world Jewry is descended from the Jews of Khazaria." Then he again quoted Koestler in THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE, "If so, this would mean that their ancestors came not from the Jordan but from the Volga; not from Canaan but from the Caucasus, once believed to be the cradle of the <font color=red>Aryan race</font>; and that GENETICALLY THEY ARE MORE RELATED TO THE HUN, UIGUR, AND MAGYAR TRIBES THAN TO THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND JACOB..." (emphasis added)
  6. In their history past they have also adopted Muslim - since they were turkish - and they gave it up when it was no more convenient and adopted jewish religion as they perceived the superior knowledge of the jewish people. Before that they were affiliated with the HUNs and the MONGOLS remember ATTILA ?

    Today's Religions Wars are directly coming from their History of course Jewish / Muslim but also NAZISM since NAZISM comes from the legend of an ARYAN RACE ! So these khazaars have been taking part in both camps, Martyrdom of REAL SINCERE JEWS and Extorsion of NAZISM of these JEWS. They are continuing the barbarian tradition of their ancestor: ATTILA.
    Today they created a new tension with Palestinians: again they play with Martyrdom except that it is arab. Same recipe.
  7. True jews exist and some have now denounced the impostors who are borrowing their culture for wars !

    Did you ever wonder why in 20th Century, whereas people from all religions are aspiring for peace, we have still ridiculous Religion Wars and ridiculous Myth of a superior race that is the ARYAN RACE ? Now don't wonder any more: these myths are perpetuated on purpose.

  8. msfe


    Medieval Kingdom of Khazaria, 650-1016

    Over a thousand years ago, the far east of Europe was ruled by Jewish kings who presided over numerous tribes, including their own tribe: the Turkic Khazars. After their conversion, the Khazar people used Jewish personal names, spoke and wrote in Hebrew, were circumcised, had synagogues and rabbis, studied the Torah and Talmud, and observed Hanukkah, Pesach, and the Sabbath. The Khazars were an advanced civilization with one of the most tolerant societies of the medieval period. It hosted merchants from all over Asia and Europe. On these pages it is hoped that you may learn more about this fascinating culture.


  9. Bolts


    That's why I said "microcosm". I read it all. The cut and paste stuff is interesting, but your conclusions make no sense. Jews and Nazis working together by exterminating themselves? Riiiight.
  10. zdreg


    fascinating book on same subject arthur koestler thirteenth tribe
    #10     Mar 12, 2004