50 Top Astronauts, Scientists Slam NASA For Promoting Man-Made Climate Change

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by achilles28, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. March 28, 2012
    The Honorable Charles Bolden, Jr.
    NASA Administrator
    NASA Headquarters
    Washington, D.C. 20546-0001
    Dear Charlie,

    We, the undersigned, respectfully request that NASA and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) refrain from including unproven remarks in public releases and websites. We believe the claims by NASA and GISS, that man-made carbon dioxide is having a catastrophic impact on global climate change are not substantiated, especially when considering thousands of years of empirical data. With hundreds of well-known climate scientists and tens of thousands of other scientists publicly declaring their disbelief in the catastrophic forecasts, coming particularly from the GISS leadership, it is clear that the science is NOT settled.

    The unbridled advocacy of CO2 being the major cause of climate change is unbecoming of NASA’s history of making an objective assessment of all available scientific data prior to making decisions or public statements.

    As former NASA employees, we feel that NASA’s advocacy of an extreme position, prior to a thorough study of the possible overwhelming impact of natural climate drivers is inappropriate. We request that NASA refrain from including unproven and unsupported remarks in its future releases and websites on this subject. At risk is damage to the exemplary reputation of NASA, NASA’s current or former scientists and employees, and even the reputation of science itself.


    For additional information regarding the science behind our concern, we recommend that you contact Harrison Schmitt or Walter Cunningham, or others they can recommend to you.

    Thank you for considering this request.

    Sincerely,

    (Attached signatures)

    CC: Mr. John Grunsfeld, Associate Administrator for Science
    CC: Ass Mr. Chris Scolese, Director, Goddard Space Flight Center

    Ref: Letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, dated 3-26-12, regarding a request for NASA to refrain from making unsubstantiated claims that human produced CO2 is having a catastrophic impact on climate change.

    1. /s/ Jack Barneburg, Jack – JSC, Space Shuttle Structures, Engineering Directorate, 34 years
    2. /s/ Larry Bell – JSC, Mgr. Crew Systems Div., Engineering Directorate, 32 years
    3. /s/ Dr. Donald Bogard – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 41 years
    4. /s/ Jerry C. Bostick – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 23 years
    5. /s/ Dr. Phillip K. Chapman – JSC, Scientist – astronaut, 5 years
    6. /s/ Michael F. Collins, JSC, Chief, Flight Design and Dynamics Division, MOD, 41 years
    7. /s/ Dr. Kenneth Cox – JSC, Chief Flight Dynamics Div., Engr. Directorate, 40 years
    8. /s/ Walter Cunningham – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 7, 8 years
    9. /s/ Dr. Donald M. Curry – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Leading Edge, Thermal Protection Sys., Engr. Dir., 44 years
    10. /s/ Leroy Day – Hdq. Deputy Director, Space Shuttle Program, 19 years
    11. /s/ Dr. Henry P. Decell, Jr. – JSC, Chief, Theory & Analysis Office, 5 years
    12. /s/Charles F. Deiterich – JSC, Mgr., Flight Operations Integration, MOD, 30 years
    13. /s/ Dr. Harold Doiron – JSC, Chairman, Shuttle Pogo Prevention Panel, 16 years
    14. /s/ Charles Duke – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 16, 10 years
    15. /s/ Anita Gale
    16. /s/ Grace Germany – JSC, Program Analyst, 35 years
    17. /s/ Ed Gibson – JSC, Astronaut Skylab 4, 14 years
    18. /s/ Richard Gordon – JSC, Astronaut, Gemini Xi, Apollo 12, 9 years
    19. /s/ Gerald C. Griffin – JSC, Apollo Flight Director, and Director of Johnson Space Center, 22 years
    20. /s/ Thomas M. Grubbs – JSC, Chief, Aircraft Maintenance and Engineering Branch, 31 years
    21. /s/ Thomas J. Harmon
    22. /s/ David W. Heath – JSC, Reentry Specialist, MOD, 30 years
    23. /s/ Miguel A. Hernandez, Jr. – JSC, Flight crew training and operations, 3 years
    24. /s/ James R. Roundtree – JSC Branch Chief, 26 years
    25. /s/ Enoch Jones – JSC, Mgr. SE&I, Shuttle Program Office, 26 years
    26. /s/ Dr. Joseph Kerwin – JSC, Astronaut, Skylab 2, Director of Space and Life Sciences, 22 years
    27. /s/ Jack Knight – JSC, Chief, Advanced Operations and Development Division, MOD, 40 years
    28. /s/ Dr. Christopher C. Kraft – JSC, Apollo Flight Director and Director of Johnson Space Center, 24 years
    29. /s/ Paul C. Kramer – JSC, Ass.t for Planning Aeroscience and Flight Mechanics Div., Egr. Dir., 34 years
    30. /s/ Alex (Skip) Larsen
    31. /s/ Dr. Lubert Leger – JSC, Ass’t. Chief Materials Division, Engr. Directorate, 30 years
    32. /s/ Dr. Humbolt C. Mandell – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Program Control and Advance Programs, 40 years
    33. /s/ Donald K. McCutchen – JSC, Project Engineer – Space Shuttle and ISS Program Offices, 33 years
    34. /s/ Thomas L. (Tom) Moser – Hdq. Dep. Assoc. Admin. & Director, Space Station Program, 28 years
    35. /s/ Dr. George Mueller – Hdq., Assoc. Adm., Office of Space Flight, 6 years
    36. /s/ Tom Ohesorge
    37. /s/ James Peacock – JSC, Apollo and Shuttle Program Office, 21 years
    38. /s/ Richard McFarland – JSC, Mgr. Motion Simulators, 28 years
    39. /s/ Joseph E. Rogers – JSC, Chief, Structures and Dynamics Branch, Engr. Directorate, 40 years
    40. /s/ Bernard J. Rosenbaum – JSC, Chief Engineer, Propulsion and Power Division, Engr. Dir., 48 years
    41. /s/ Dr. Harrison (Jack) Schmitt – JSC, Astronaut Apollo 17, 10 years
    42. /s/ Gerard C. Shows – JSC, Asst. Manager, Quality Assurance, 30 years
    43. /s/ Kenneth Suit – JSC, Ass’t Mgr., Systems Integration, Space Shuttle, 37 years
    44. /s/ Robert F. Thompson – JSC, Program Manager, Space Shuttle, 44 years
    45. /s/ Frank Van Renesselaer – Hdq., Mgr. Shuttle Solid Rocket Boosters, 15 years
    46. /s/ Dr. James Visentine – JSC Materials Branch, Engineering Directorate, 30 years
    47. /s/ Manfred (Dutch) von Ehrenfried – JSC, Flight Controller; Mercury, Gemini & Apollo, MOD, 10 years
    48. /s/ George Weisskopf – JSC, Avionics Systems Division, Engineering Dir., 40 years
    49. /s/ Al Worden – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 15, 9 years
    50. /s/ Thomas (Tom) Wysmuller – JSC, Meteorologist, 5 years
    http://nation.foxnews.com/nasa/2012/04/10/global-warming-rebellion-rocks-nasa
     
  2. is this like in religion where you can get a list of scientists who claim evolution is false? when you look at the list they are things like computer scientists and dont work in the actual field of climate change?
     
  3. Great post but reality doesn't stand a chance with liberals :p

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  4. Man-made "climate change" merely a ruse... an attempt to extort $$ from America.... "wealth redistribution" disguised as something noble?
     
  5. Brass

    Brass

    I'll see your 50 astronauts and scientists and raise you one Stephen Hawking:

    Stephen Hawking: Human-Caused Climate Change Dire Threat To Future Of World

    Climate change stands alongside the use of nuclear weapons as one of the greatest threats posed to the future of the world, the Cambridge cosmologist Stephen Hawking has said.

    Professor Hawking said that we stand on the precipice of a second nuclear age and a period of exceptional climate change, both of which could destroy the planet as we know it.

    He was speaking at the Royal Society in London yesterday at a conference organised by the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists which has decided to move the minute hand of its "Doomsday Clock" forward to five minutes to midnight to reflect the increased dangers faced by the world.

    Scientists devised the clock in 1947 as a way of expressing to the public the risk of nuclear conflagration following the use of the atomic weapons that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of the Second World War.

    "As we stand at the brink of a second nuclear age and a period of unprecedented climate change, scientists have a special responsibility, once again, to inform the public and to advise leaders about the perils that humanity faces," Professor Hawking said. "As scientists, we understand the dangers of nuclear weapons and their devastating effects, and we are learning how human activities and technologies are affecting climate systems in ways that may forever change life on Earth.

    "As citizens of the world, we have a duty to share that knowledge. We have a duty, as well, to alert the public to the unnecessary risks that we live with every day, and to the perils we foresee if governments and societies do not take action now to render nuclear weapons obsolete and to prevent further climate change.

    "We are here today to outline the results of the Bulletin's recent deliberations and to warn the public about the deteriorating state of world and planetary affairs by moving the hand of the clock," Professor Hawking said.

    "Lord Rees of Ludlow, president of the Royal Society, said humankind's collective impacts on the biosphere, climate and oceans were unprecedented. These environmentally-driven threats _ 'threats without enemies' _ should loom as large in the political perspective as did the East-West political divide during the Cold War era.

    Technology in the 21st century could offer immense opportunities to everyone but it would also present new threats that were more diverse and more intractable than those posed by nuclear weapons, Lord Rees said.

    "To confront these threats successfully _ and to avoid foreclosing humanity's long-term potential _ scientists need to channel their efforts wisely and engage with the political process nationally and internationally.

    "We shall need, in all fields of science, individuals with the wisdom and commitment of the atomic scientists who founded the Bulletin," he said.

    The board of directors of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists said the threat of nuclear apocalypse was now almost matched by the environmental threats posed by climate change.

    "We stand at the brink of a second nuclear age. Not since the first atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki has the world faced such perilous choices," the board said in a statement issued yesterday.

    "North Korea's recent test of a nuclear weapon, Iran's nuclear ambitions, a renewed US emphasis on the military utility of nuclear weapons, the failure to adequately secure nuclear materials and the continued presence of some 26,000 nuclear weapons in the United States and Russia are symptomatic of a larger failure to solve the problems posed by the most destructive technology on Earth.

    "As in past deliberations, we have examined other human-made threats to civilisation. We have concluded the dangers posed by climate change are nearly as dire as those posed by nuclear weapons. The effects may be less dramatic in the short term than the destruction that could be wrought by nuclear explosions, but over the next three to four decades climate change could cause drastic harm."


    http://350orbust.com/2011/07/06/ste...hange-could-destroy-the-planet-as-we-know-it/
     
  6. Stephen Hawking once claimed the universe would collapse and time would reverse but eventually had to take it back. And that was in his field. This is not. So your science "god" is far from infallible or the final authority, even in physics.
     
  7. pspr

    pspr

    Great post.

    But the truth is hard to swallow for the liberals who, unbeknownst to them, are promoting a lie that is designed to take money from the American and European tax payers and put into the pockets of corrupt countries and dishonest businessmen like Al Gore.
     
  8. Brass

    Brass

    ...is smarter than the 50 astronauts et al put together.
     
  9. Not on climate change. Sorry to break it to you but your science "god" isn't all you "think" he is. Not even in physics.
     
  10. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    50 to 1 huh?
     
    #10     Apr 11, 2012