50 pts in the ES

Discussion in 'Journals' started by TheStudent, Oct 16, 2003.

  1. I checked the ET book reviews and the book you suggest isn't even listed. Is this not a big deal book for most traders like you suggest or can I just not find the reviews? I appreciate your high regard for it however.

    #41     Oct 18, 2003
  2. ...with all due disrespect for ET, the books they have listed are a piss-poor selection. It ain't just me likes Douglas, he is revered by many traders here and on SI. Check out the Amazon review at


    His first book, the Disciplined Trader, was also excellent. If I had to recommend only one book to a new trader, Zone would be it. It is not a book about trading techniques, but about the psychological impediments to profitable trading and how to overcome them. You can usually find it in the big bookstores.
    #42     Oct 19, 2003
  3. funky


    i second this....amazing book
    #43     Oct 19, 2003
  4. The following is a link to a search for "Douglas" on this site, where you will find ample reviews and opinions. As an additional bonus, a small number of references are to Michael Douglas, the actor, and others of the Douglas clan.


    #44     Oct 19, 2003
  5. I went to B&N and bought the book. Even though I can literally SEE Amazon's building from my place in Seattle :) I wanted to start reading it right away and not wait a week for delivery.

    I'm already three chapters in and I have to say a big thankyou to hypostomus. Douglas has nailed me and my attitudes/perceptions/fears and actions 100% so far. This should prove very interesting.

    #45     Oct 19, 2003
  6. oh, and thankyou Funky and Mr. Subliminal too :)

    #46     Oct 19, 2003
  7. ...you are too kind. After you have read Zone, I recommend that you read The Disciplined Trader. It got trashed in some SI circles, but IMO it, too, is a great book. The basic premise, hard for a lot of people to buy, is that you "give" yourself money from the markets in proportion to your legitimate self-esteem. Also, if you have the teensiest bit of addictive behavior in your personality (I don't, of course), I recommend reading the first part of Dr. Elder's book relating addictive behaviors to trading failure. My copy is highlighted and over-highlighted in three different colors. Best regards. - Mike
    #47     Oct 19, 2003
  8. dbphoenix


    Neither one stands alone. Reading both can be a bit of a haul, but it would be difficult to recommend just one. Given that, I'd read the second one first.
    #48     Oct 19, 2003
  9. ..totally agree. The second one gives you the cure, but the first one defines the disease. It amazed me how many people on SI thought it was new age trash. I have no doubt that it will be recieved into the future as the best trading book ever, even though it contains not a word on method.
    #49     Oct 19, 2003
  10. :) :)
    now you guys have gone and got me confused. What book is "the first" and which is "the second" and then you throw in Dr. Elder (I'm assuming you mean Trading for a Living) is this the second or third or.....
    And which one, the first, whichever one that is, defines the cure and which one defines the desease ?

    (and no, there has been no Jack Daniels in my diet pepsi this afternoon :)

    #50     Oct 19, 2003