$50,000 worth of development for free

Discussion in 'App Development' started by Aquarians, Feb 13, 2018.

  1. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Now you are accomplishing something at least.
     
    #21     Feb 22, 2018
  2. Success starts with the little things.
     
    #22     Feb 22, 2018
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  3. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    :D
     
    #23     Feb 22, 2018
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  4. rtw

    rtw

    this sounds really interesting for me.

    i will be sending you a private message for information.
     
    #24     Feb 24, 2018
  5. rtw

    rtw


    the most immense ignoramii are always the ones who bark the loudest.


    i'll take a couple of minutes to enumerate and explain some illustrative examples of how "capitalism" works and smack the heads in of these people who really need to do some research before they post anything publicly.


    the largest, most brutally profitable "private" enterprises ever have practically always and everywhere been created or greatly supported by governments and or militaries.



    amazon.com has for its entire history been a company with massive revenues but minuscule or negative profit margins. actually, if they paid all taxes and obligations their competitors have to, in all certainty they would be even more unprofitable than they have been. it wasn't until the government of the usa, via the cia, gave that company a questionable and gigantic deal that it made anything resembling operating profit. so, here you have one instance where a government actively intervened in making the richest man in the planet in modern history. that's how capitalism works.

    " Amazon has been around a long time. It’s one of the few Internet companies that was doing business 20 years ago, when I launched WorldNetDaily.com, now known as WND.com.

    But it was less than three years ago that Amazon began to achieve any profits to speak of. And, even today, you’d be shocked to know how high its revenues are and how relatively low its profits are. "

    http://www.wnd.com/2017/06/jeff-bezos-amazon-washington-post-and-the-cia/



    apple was entirely made by the government of the usa. every relevant component in the iphone was developed by programs funded upfront by governments and or militaries. keep in mind, it is the iphone that has made apple the richest company in modern history. the most beautiful thing is that even when apple owes its very existence to public funding, they have absolutely no problem also being the company that has evaded the most taxes in modern history in the usa and abroad as well.

    "Over the years. U.S. taxpayers have been very good to Apple.

    Many of the revolutionary technologies that make the iPhone and other products and services “smart” were funded by the U.S. government. Take, for instance, the Internet, GPS, touchscreen display, as well as the latest voice-activated personal assistant, Siri. And Apple did not just benefit from government-funded research activities. It also received its early stage finance from the U.S. government’s Small Business Investment Company program. Venture capitalists entered only after government funding had gotten the company to the critical proof of concept.

    Other Silicon Valley companies, like Google, have profited in a similarly immense fashion: Google’s algorithm was funded by the National Science Foundation. Many of the “new economy” companies that like to portray themselves as the heart of U.S. “entrepreneurship” have very successfully surfed the wave of U.S. government-funded investments. Hence, one secret to Silicon Valley’s success has been its active and visible hand, in stark contrast to the Ayn Rand/Adam Smith folklore often bandied about."

    https://hbr.org/2013/03/taxpayers-helped-apple-but-app


    "All basic technologies that make our mobile phones “smart” can be traced back to governmental initiative and funding. Just a few: microprocessors; RAM memory; hard disk drives; liquid-crystal displays; lithium batteries; the Internet; cellular technology and networks; global positioning system (GPS); multi-touch screens."

    https://blog.ted.com/qa-mariana-mazzucato-governments-often-fuel-innovation/



    ¿how about all f*cking internet technology companies and social media platforms being ideological and financial creations of agencies of the government of the usa? all those platforms are banned inside the pr of china and other countries who do their homework, for plenty of reason. there you have one more instance of governments and militaries acting as king makers and having been behind the very generous opportunities afforded to some of the richest people in the planet.








    i don't have time to go into detail, but the most obscene illustration of "capitalism" at work, where governments and central banks care about nothing else but the paper wealth of the rich and connected has been the brazen rigging of financial markets since the 80's. the federal reserve of the usa has used interest rates levels, first and foremost, to keep price levels in financial markets stupidly inflated for decades. after capitalism's self destructing behavior got too bad since 2007 - 2009 and interest rate cuts were never going to be enough to prevent financial markets from going to their true levels, central banks have had no problem directly injecting at least 20,000,000,000,000 usd of stupid liquidity into those markets, all for the benefit of the rich and connected (in the usa approximately 83% of all stocks are owned by the richest 1% of the population). 2017 was the year with the most massive central bank liquidity injections in history with more than 5,000,000,000,000 usd for that calendar year alone. the bank of nippon owns far more than 60% of all the etf's in that country and is a top 10 shareholder in 90% of publicly listed companies. the central bank of the confederatio helvetica has created piles of money out of thin air over the last decade and with it purchased approximately 12,000 usd in global stocks for every man, womand and child in that country. that's how "capitalism" works.


    the largest private fortunes all over eastern europe after the communist bloc disintegrated are all cases of public assets being hijacked by corrupt, connected, powerful individuals. the british and usa empires have financed and carried out with public treasure the centuries of invasions, aggressions and interventions all over the middle east that have permitted all the fossil fuels resources from that region to be stolen by these foreign actors, but all profits from this exploitation have always been conceded to the private shareholders of the largest fossil fuel companies. that's how "capitalism" works.


    but around comes this guy from eastern europe, sharing an interesting offer for a very humble government grant ¿and all of a sudden he's a failed, communist loser living in the past and with a mindset of entitlement? ¿so you have no issue with piles and piles of money being piled into the already considerable fortunes of the rich and connected but if an ordinary person wants a slice of that same pie we all pay for it is an scandalous, outrageous situation? you need to gtf out of here and out of everywhere.


    if anyone wants to learn anything else, please just ask and i will try my best.
     
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    #25     Feb 25, 2018
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  6. Wow, RTW, you really made your point. Thanks for siding with the little man, for a change.
     
    #26     Feb 25, 2018
  7. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Wow, what nonsense.
     
    #27     Feb 25, 2018
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  8. punisher

    punisher

    Am I in? Are you kidding me? Of course I'm in for that free money. If I start a good business (my risk, my profits) and it survives, if someone is going to offer me that free $$$, I will gladly take it. If they change their mind, so be it.

    I tried to be nice but it didn't work. Since you continue on with that socialistic attitude, then let me break it to you the hard way.

    All these incentive programs, whether coming from EU funds or locally sponsored are to promote and help out in some areas more so than in others. These are not meant to be a risk free donations so you can try and run a business at no expense to you and no risk. If the business idea makes sense, if hiring that extra stuff makes sense, if the business works out for those 2 years or whatever it is, then the chances are the business will survive and that it hopefully will not be a waste of these (taxpayers) funds.

    The final truth is this: All these business', if they really make sense, they don't need that extra taxpayers' money at the end. Those that base the entire business idea on necessity of these extra free funds almost always fail miserably. I have seen tons of businesses and projects fail big time because of that. That includes projects as big as entire local airports build on hopes financed partially by EU funds.

    If the business you are thinking about makes no sense to you without those extra funds, then the entire idea of the business is wrong OR you are just trying to misappropriate the funds by using them for something that they were not intended to, and one of those things are flawed business ideas or business' that have no chance of survival.

    Enough said?

    Seems to me you want to run a business and reap the profits without taking any risk? What are you doing on these trading boards? It makes no sense. In trading you can make risk free money. You think that trading is that much different from real life?
     
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    #28     Feb 26, 2018
  9. You're an idiot.
     
    #29     Feb 26, 2018
  10. punisher

    punisher

    What part of what I said you don't agree with? Or is that I'm simply stating the facts that you don't like?

    I suggest to re-evaluate your attitude. There are some free funds out there that can be provided to you if you meet the criteria. Don't want to meet the criteria? Then don't apply for these funds.

    What you do? You come here and complain that the funds should be provided upfront to you, on your terms.

    Look, do I make the rules for the distribution of these funds? No. I just simply agree with it as it makes perfect sense to me. So if, according to you, I'm an idiot, then so must be the people responsible for distributing these funds in the first place... So... go and tell them they are idiots and see how that works for ya.

    Then come back and tell us who's an idiot now?
     
    #30     Feb 26, 2018