5% - 10% profit per day trading

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  1. LoveMySystems,

    what sort of risk:reward do you have a a sytem that produces 100% per week? Are you also risking about 100% of your capital?

    thanks,

    Walt

     
    #21     Aug 15, 2008
  2. Never. I saw a youtube video yesterday of some chat room trading guru who did that and watched him go mad. $25,000 gone. Maybe you have seen it.
     
    #22     Aug 15, 2008

  3. LOL

    I seen a few of those videos before.

    How much was the guy doing per pip though in relation to the size of his stoploss??
     
    #23     Aug 15, 2008
  4. 100% per week will get you the world in a year. Perhaps a *true* master of the universe in 5.
     
    #24     Aug 15, 2008
  5. You can only compound for so long. Theories of compounding forever are fantasy. You must take profit distributions when you max your # of cars per trade, which I do. Size has its limits, and I dont trade instruments with huge volume like the ES.
     
    #25     Aug 16, 2008
  6. I don't know who he was (or if he even still has a chat room or is still trading), but it appeared he traded without any stop loss. Fool.
     
    #26     Aug 16, 2008
  7. Link? I'm in a schadenfreude kind of mood :D
     
    #27     Aug 16, 2008
  8. Attached is a ditty I've posted before... A "what-if" workbook, to play with DAILY profit percentage based on 20 trading days in a month.

    When I've traded small accounts ( <= 5K ) I've used 8% as the daily "goal". Successfully I might add. A goal does not mean it's met everyday, but if you know what you are doing, the goal can become the daily average over a month.

    As has been mentioned, these daily percentage returns incur the wrath of diminishing returns as account size increases. A "key" to consistently achieving high daily profits is to reset (aka. make a withdraw) the account to a "workable" level each month. This is also a major reason why comparing a 5 or 6 digit day-trader account against a 7 or 8 (or 9) digit account is pointless... 2% of 10M is 200K a day, 10% of 20K is 2K per day. Both are realistic, dependent on the comptroller.

    Anyway, OP, keep us posted.

    Osorico
     
    #28     Aug 16, 2008
  9. Why does the second entry above show a time of 17:00, which is obviously earlier than the previous entry of 17:12? Every other entry on your trade log shows a progressively later time in relation to the previous trades.
     
    #29     Aug 16, 2008

  10. Aloha mate, i just checked and i honestly dont know why they lay it out like that.
    I checked my trade histsory for that day and they aslo did that at 9.47am when i moved a stoploss.


    Ive posted the closest i know how to get to a screen shot below,
    just to prove that im not just like a really really sad sad loser who makes up numbers to try and show off or anything like that!! LOL



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    Contract ID Status Order # Date/Time Buy/Sell £/Tic Price Profit/Loss
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    20020 Open 5594949 15/08/2008 15:14:00 Buy 2 112.2
    20020 Closed 5594985 15/08/2008 15:20:00 Sell 2 112.16 £-8.00
    NymexCrude Sep Fut - 20 Aug, 08
    20018 Open 5591479 14/08/2008 18:23:00 Sell 2 113.7
    20018 Open 5591508 14/08/2008 19:24:00 Sell 1 115
    20018 Closed 5592540 15/08/2008 09:12:00 Buy 2 112.99 £142.00
    20018 Closed 5592540 15/08/2008 09:12:00 Buy 1 112.99 £201.00
    20018 Open 5592804 15/08/2008 09:47:00 Sell 1 112.81
    20018 Closed 5592927 15/08/2008 10:19:00 Buy 1 0 £Stop Loss Move
    20018 Open 5592927 15/08/2008 09:47:00 Sell 1 112.81
    20018 Open 5593699 15/08/2008 13:51:00 Sell 2 113.66
    20018 Closed 5594514 15/08/2008 14:31:00 Buy 2 113.2 £92.00
    20018 Closed 5594708 15/08/2008 14:48:00 Buy 1 112.84 £-3.00
    20018 Open 5594716 15/08/2008 14:49:00 Sell 1 112.52
    20018 Closed 5594729 15/08/2008 14:51:00 Buy 1 112.46 £6.00
    20018 Open 5594885 15/08/2008 15:08:00 Sell 2 112.54
    20018 Closed 5594914 15/08/2008 15:10:00 Buy 2 112.49 £10.00
    20018 Open 5595234 15/08/2008 16:40:00 Sell 2 112.46
    20018 Closed 5595601 15/08/2008 16:54:00 Buy 2 112.22 £48.00
    20018 Open 5595625 15/08/2008 17:00:00 Sell 2 112.38
    20018 Open 5595632 15/08/2008 17:00:00 Sell 2 112.38
    20018 Closed 5595632 15/08/2008 17:02:00 Buy 2 0 £Stop Loss Move
    20018 Closed 5595666 15/08/2008 17:12:00 Buy 2 0 £Stop Loss Move
    20018 Open 5595666 15/08/2008 17:00:00 Sell 2 112.38
    20018 Closed 5595738 15/08/2008 17:39:00 Buy 2 112.12 £52.00
    20018 Open 5595743 15/08/2008 17:40:00 Sell 3 112.07
    20018 Closed 5595771 15/08/2008 17:52:00 Buy 3 111.78 £87.00


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