46% Americans Believe In Creationism According To Latest Gallup Poll

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Free Thinker, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. Mercor

    Mercor

    Evolution by definition never stops, yet science claims many species have not changed in millions of years.
    How can evolution stop unless in has reached its design.
     
    #11     Jun 9, 2012
  2. jem

    jem

    No problems here.
     
    #12     Jun 9, 2012
  3. jem

    jem

    I thought there was little debate. I thought everyone acknowledged there are gaps in the genealogies accept a few born agains.


    http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/aid/v2/n1/do-the-genesis-genealogies-contain-gaps

     
    #13     Jun 9, 2012
  4. eurojack

    eurojack

    To quote Eddie Griffin (stand-up comedian):

    Haha. Here's the entire piece.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsuAtiVm28Q
     
    #14     Jun 10, 2012
  5. jcl

    jcl

    Those species have reached an equilibrium with their environment. Put them in a different environment and they will change.

    A simple proof that evolution works is its use in engineering, even in trading. Genetic algorithms generate automated trading strategies. Those algorithms simulate evolution by random mutations and selection, and change a strategy until it's optimized to a certain market.
     
    #15     Jun 10, 2012
  6. Nothing but threads on atheism and global warming this weekend. That's about all the left has at this point. Obama has screwed the pooch. He may not even win Massachusetts at this rate. Keep clinging to these fringe issues and see where that get's you.
     
    #16     Jun 10, 2012
  7. Mercor

    Mercor

    Equilibrium does not exist in the theory of evolution.
    All organisms are improving through sexual selection to try to get the edge on the other species.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Queen's_Hypothesis
    For example, because every improvement in one species will lead to a selective advantage for that species, variation will normally continuously lead to increases in fitness in one species or another. However, since in general different species are co-evolving, improvement in one species implies that it will get a competitive advantage over the other species, and thus be able to capture a larger share of the resources available to all. This means that fitness increase in one evolutionary system will tend to lead to fitness decrease in another system. The only way that a species involved in a competition for resources can maintain its fitness relative to other competing species is by improving its specific fitness.
     
    #17     Jun 10, 2012
  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    Grandluxe has put up another really important anti-Obama thread, check it out.
    ; )
     
    #18     Jun 10, 2012
  9. jcl

    jcl

    Well, I suggest that you google for the phrase "punctuated equilibrium".

    This is not how evolution works. Evolution is indeed driven by competitive advantage, but among individuals, not among species. You would have evolution even if only one single species existed. Evolution causes optimal adaption to the environment, up to a point where the overall fitness has reached a local maximum. Then you have equilibrium. It's a rather simple, but highly successful concept, and works in many different areas, even in engineering.
     
    #19     Jun 10, 2012
  10. Ricter

    Ricter

    Of course there is at least some inter-species competition, for example wolves, mountain lion, and men, all compete for beaver.
     
    #20     Jun 10, 2012