4 in 5 vaccinated Americans blame unvaccinated for rising cases

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Aug 4, 2021.

  1. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    The journalist need to start doing their job and lay the blame solely on the person responsible for all of this, Biden.

    This is due to Biden's mixed messaging, incompetence, inability to lead, divisiveness, virtue signaling, and Biden causing a complete lack of trust in the US government.

    Unfortunately, I don't see how this turns around with Biden as president.

    Biden and the losers he picked for his administration are clearly incapable of convincing enough people in the US to get the vaccine.

    Biden is going to be responsible for so many deaths.
     
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    #81     Aug 22, 2021
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So answer us this - did more Americans die of Covid under Trump or under Biden.
     
    #82     Aug 22, 2021
  3. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Biden is the leader of this country. It is his responsibility to garner trust, convince people that the vaccines are safe, and to get people vaccinated. He has unequivocally failed.

    The first major mistake by you, libtards, and Biden was to not give Trump any credit for the vaccines and project warp speed. This has caused major distrust in the vaccines.

    Also, Fauci has completely lost the trust of many in the US. Keeping Fauci in charge at the NIH is completely obstructing the effort to get people vaccinated. The first step to get people vaccinated that are reluctant i to put people in charge that are trustworthy.
     
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    #83     Aug 22, 2021
  4. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    That has exactly ZERO relevancy regarding the percentage vaxxed and unvaxxed in this country.
     
    #84     Aug 22, 2021
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So let's take a look at some numbers - in 2019 there were 122.5 million passengers on incoming international flights to the U.S. In 2021 the incoming international passengers to the U.S. have increased every month. The current estimate for 2021 incoming international passengers to the U.S. is 61 million.

    Many of these incoming travelers are not vaccinated. Many of these incoming travelers have questionable Covid test paperwork. If the U.S. was serious about stopping Covid from entering our country it would require a 14 day quarantine for all incoming travelers like many other countries do.

    Obviously the sheer number of incoming air travelers make illegal immigrants crossing our southern border look like a minor blip in the bucket in regards to volume. It should be noted that Delta was initially introduced and widely spread in the U.S. at major points of entry; Miami and New York -- not via Mexico.

    Furthermore it should be noted that Delta was introduced to Mexico by Americans in tourist areas. Of course, since Delta is very transmissible it has surged in Mexico. So effectively the problem at our "border" is Americans infecting Mexicans. Especially in view that illegal immigrants are generally testing Covid free when apprehended and then catch Covid in our crowded detention facilities before being deported. All the while apprehended illegal immigrants are the most tested group in the U.S. -- incoming airline passengers are barely tested at all.

    Anyone trying to claim that illegal immigrants at our southern border are a significant issue for Covid spread and introduction in the U.S. -- is not only incapable of statistical math and scientific understanding but is fostering a fabricated narrative merely to demean brown skinned immigrants.
     
    #85     Aug 22, 2021
  6. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    So, you think that Biden is not serious about stopping Covid.

    Why hasn't Biden implemented this?

    Anyone that claims the above demostrates complete lack of knowledge and no understanding of statistics, R0, and how viruses spread.

    You should really educated yourself with respect to R0 and how viruses spread.
    https://www.healthline.com/health/r-nought-reproduction-number#covid-19-r-0
     
    #86     Aug 22, 2021
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Obviously you are babbling again and missing the point.

    Here is the point - Illegal immigrants are NOT a meaningful issue in terms of introducing or spreading Covid in the U.S. Read the words and repeat them 10 times or more until they sink in.
     
    #87     Aug 22, 2021
  8. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    1.8 million people that were NOT apprehended by CBP are a meaningful issue in context of introducing and spreading Covid in the US.

    To think that 1.8 million people is not an issue is to dismiss science, math, logic, and common sense.
     
    #88     Aug 22, 2021
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So where do you claim to get these figures from. Cite your source.

    Certainly your 1.8 million number is not supported in community information -- where are these 1.8 million people who avoided CBP settling. Some cities and towns must have certainly noticed this many people showing up suddenly needed housing and utilities.
     
    #89     Aug 22, 2021
  10. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    If the Dems and Biden are serious about stopping Covid, why hasn't Biden implemented this?

    By your logic above, Biden and the dems are not serious about stopping Covid unless they immediately change immigration policies and lockdown the border.
     
    #90     Aug 22, 2021