3000+ heat records broken this weekend.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Free Thinker, Jul 2, 2012.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    Three martini lunch?

    You are taking "know" to the level of absurdity. I suppose we could ask Obama's mom how she truly knows she was in Hawaii at the time she was giving birth. Did she travel via spaceship from orbit, directing the ship herself to Hawaii? Is she confident that the monitor was showing an actual image of the Earth, or was it a faked image and she really landed somewhere in Africa? Etc.
     
    #11     Jul 3, 2012
  2. jem

    jem

    When do we starting taking the word of politicans as truth?
    Did you believe Clinton?
    If Bill Clinton said he was born in Arkansas would there be any reason in the world to criticize someone who said they thought Clinton should prove it to a state election board before they believe him?


    Did you believe Cheney or Bush about Weapons of Mass Destruction?
    I didn't know whether I should but I did believe Colin Powell.

    so all of a sudden leftist drones think they know where Obama was born?


    I am taking "know" to the level of plain english as defined by dictionaries.

    Say merriam webster...

    a (1) : the fact or condition of knowing something with familiarity gained through experience or association (2) : acquaintance with or understanding of a science, art, or technique
     
    #12     Jul 3, 2012
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    If the State of Arkansas produced Clinton's birth certificate confirming his birth in Arkansas then the matter would be settled in my opinion.
     
    #13     Jul 3, 2012
  4. This post confirms it.......................... you're a stubborn idiot troll. Profuse, but an idiot nonetheless. Seemingly smart in your idiocy, but still an idiot. A psuedo-smart, deluded, stubborn, profusely posting idiot. Like the lawyer you are, vehemently sticking to untenable positions is a virtue to you. Your global warming denial argument is a pointless diversion and in no way is germane to the fact of man-made (note the word MAN) global warming. We've been through this. You are an ignorant (as in ignores anything that may conflict with your opinion) deluded, disingenuous, intellectually retarded, idiot troll. Arguing rationally and presenting facts to you is an exercise in futility.

    I actually think it may be all a charade and you may be chuckling at how you drive up page views by playing devil's advocate, because no-one could actually be that stupid.

    You know man-made global warming is real. You know Obama was born in the US. You're not that stupid. You just choose to be a gadfly for fun.

    But in that case, maybe your not an idiot, just a psychopathically driven gadfly. Or your being paid to pump up views. I feel like a sucker even responding to your tripe.
     
    #14     Jul 3, 2012
  5. #15     Jul 3, 2012
  6. So now you are the one confusing weather with climate. Pot, meet kettle.
     
    #16     Jul 5, 2012


  7. "This is what global warming looks like at the regional or personal level," said Jonathan Overpeck, professor of geosciences and atmospheric sciences at the University of Arizona. "The extra heat increases the odds of worse heat waves, droughts, storms and wildfire. This is certainly what I and many other climate scientists have been warning about."
    Kevin Trenberth, head of climate analysis at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in fire-charred Colorado, said these are the very record-breaking conditions he has said would happen, but many people wouldn't listen. So it's I told-you-so time, he said.
    As recently as March, a special report an extreme events and disasters by the Nobel Prize-winningIntergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warned of "unprecedented extreme weather and climate events." Its lead author, Chris Field of the Carnegie Institution and Stanford University, said Monday, "It's really dramatic how many of the patterns that we've talked about as the expression of the extremes are hitting the U.S. right now."
    "What we're seeing really is a window into what global warming really looks like," said Princeton University geosciences and international affairs professor Michael Oppenheimer. "It looks like heat. It looks like fires. It looks like this kind of environmental disasters."
    Oppenheimer said that on Thursday. That was before the East Coast was hit with triple-digit temperatures and before a derecho — a large, powerful and long-lasting straight-line wind storm — blew from Chicago to Washington. The storm and its aftermath killed more than 20 people and left millions without electricity. Experts say it had energy readings five times that of normal thunderstorms.
    Fueled by the record high heat, this was among the strongest of this type of storm in the region in recent history, said research meteorologist Harold Brooks of the National Severe Storm Laboratory in Norman, Okla. Scientists expect "non-tornadic wind events" like this one and other thunderstorms to increase with climate change because of the heat and instability, he said.
    Such patterns haven't happened only in the past week or two. The spring and winter in the U.S. were the warmest on record and among the least snowy, setting the stage for the weather extremes to come, scientists say.
    Since Jan. 1, the United States has set more than 40,000 hot temperature records, but fewer than 6,000 cold temperature records, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Through most of last century, the U.S. used to set cold and hot records evenly, but in the first decade of this century America set two hot records for every cold one, said Jerry Meehl, a climate extreme expert at the National Center for Atmospheric Research. This year the ratio is about 7 hot to 1 cold. Some computer models say that ratio will hit 20-to-1 by midcentury, Meehl said.
    "In the future you would expect larger, longer more intense heat waves and we've seen that in the last few summers," NOAA Climate Monitoring chief Derek Arndt said.
    The 100-degree heat, drought, early snowpack melt and beetles waking from hibernation early to strip trees all combined to set the stage for the current unusual spread of wildfires in the West, said University of Montana ecosystems professor Steven Running, an expert on wildfires.
    While at least 15 climate scientists told The Associated Press that this long hot U.S. summer is consistent with what is to be expected in global warming, history is full of such extremes, said John Christy at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. He's a global warming skeptic who says, "The guilty party in my view is Mother Nature."
    But the vast majority of mainstream climate scientists, such as Meehl, disagree: "This is what global warming is like, and we'll see more of this as we go into the future."
    ___
    http://news.yahoo.com/summer-global-warming-looks-171056052.html
     
    #17     Jul 5, 2012
  8. jem

    jem

    If they produced the certified record for a court, state board, or other official proceeding, I would give it the legal presumption of settled as well.
     
    #18     Jul 5, 2012
  9. jem

    jem

    I suspect Global warming is happening and would have happened without man, because it is how the earth cycles according to the records.
    Whether man has made any contribution to it is not even close to proven.
    Although I would not be surprised if man had a measurable impact in accelerating the cycle.

    Whether mans impact is overall bad - is another serious question.
    Perhaps our impact will modulate the cycle. Perhaps the reverse trend will commence sooner... or later. How the hell would a scientist know.

    Given that uncertainty what is the correct course of action...?

    Would I want to clean up the environment sure. But, I think we should make individual efforts and our govt should give us positive tax incentives... not the crap that leftists alarmists advocate.

    2. When you can produce a certified record showing where Obama is born you won't be an obamaloon.

    As long as you say you know where he was born... you are as much an idiot as someone who says he was not born here.

    do you realize how much of an idiot you are?




     
    #19     Jul 5, 2012
  10. I wonder where Mitt stands on the issue :confused:



    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/JMAn6O1IeoQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
    #20     Jul 5, 2012