3 weeks of straight mask wearing equals elimination of virus?

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by S2007S, Jul 13, 2020.

  1. Sig

    Sig

    So let's be clear. Your "sources" are an article citing a single woman and another article showing that a testing facility may have undercounted positive cases. Again, you clearly have no experience dealing with any large operation, where mistakes are inevitable. If you do, I'm happy to hear about them? Happy to share my military experiences as well, while although just an O-5 so somewhat of a cog in the giant machine still able to appreciate how difficult it is to pull off a very well planned operation let alone a shit show like this has been. When you can show any evidence whatsoever of issues that amount to more than fractions of a percent of total tests or cases then you will be "backing up" what you allege. Until then you're just again, displaying your ignorance.

    No clue where you came up the the "The CDC themselves said that they were counting every death as a Covid death." allegation, QAnon? Are you talking about them counting every death of someone who tested positive for COVID as a COVID death? Let's assume that's true, do you have any concept of the numbers here? How many people out of the 140,000 do you reckon tested positive for COVID and then had something happen like a cop killing them the next day like George Floyd so technically not really killed by COVID? Any evidence to support that number, whatever it is?

    If you really care to learn about this subject, which I'm not sure is the case given your certainty that you could never be wrong about anything, take a look at the concept of excess deaths. There is a very well established baseline of how many people die in the U.S. every March, April, May, and June. There are 124,000 - 168,000 more deaths that occurred during that period this year than the upper bound of any previous years (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm if you're actually capable of taking a minute to view something that might conflict with your deeply held views). It's a pretty straight line to tie those excess deaths to a pandemic that causes people to die, any denial of that is so tortured as to make the person putting forth that denial appear either "stupid" or pathologically unable to actually analyze data and come to a conclusion based on anything other than personal beliefs. Which kind of person are you?
     
    #61     Jul 22, 2020
  2. luisHK

    luisHK

    Yeah... had we known beforehand how that would play out in Europe we'd have fone for Belgium, where the kids were accepted in an International school as well. Belgium was hit hard but never reverted to measures as drastic and repressive as Spain. Now it s again possible to leave btw, and Spain does still look more paranoid than other european countries but so far we stay. At least the residence we stay in allowed more freedom than most places during this time, and we know more people now to keep a social life if schools and gyms get closed again, which looks likely. Not a Problem is if it goes way South again, the borders will probably close again on spanish residents. 70 new cases and no hospitalization today in Madrid, looks like most cases are benign here at the moment. As the article posted above mentions, many cases are discovered when patients go through mandatory covid testing when going for other medical procedures. Other cases discovered when their contacts are tested.
    Lots of restrictions for a virus most people hardly even notice having been infected with.
     
    #62     Jul 22, 2020
  3. luisHK

    luisHK

    Worth of note is with the new testing policies, younger people on average come up positive, okder folks might still get hurt as much when infected, but tgat s not even sure, there were several artickes about the virus being less deadly ib Spain and Italy a few weeks ago.
     
    #63     Jul 22, 2020